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Things that josh would have experienced by now if he actually had an active sex life
or things that josh wants to do upon obtaining an active sex life
or things that josh’s future sex partners might be into but he is unsure of but maybe they’re awesome
or things that josh has jerked off to that he is mostly not unsure of but that future sex partners might be unsure of

Also known as:

THE LIST

General Sex Things that Many Gay Dudes Experience (or the part that is decidedly not kinky):

- Lots and lots and lots of kissing, because even if that isn’t a sex thing, exactly, I realllllly want it
- Actually, all of the bases, please. Does the bases system hold up with dudes? Nipples are still a big deal with some dudes, so second base is still a thing, right?
- Handjobs (giving and receiving)
- Blowjobs (giving and receiving)
- Fingering (giving and receiving. something other than my own inside me, please. Unless you’re really into that? Watching me finger myself. Does that go in the kinky section?)
- Magic can cover hickeys very well, just going to throw that out there (except marking might also go on the kinky side? I don’t even know)
- Fucking.
- No, seriously.
- It hasn’t happened yet.
- If we are speaking in baseball terms, I am way out in the outfield or something because I have never pitched or caught and it is BORING AND SEXUALLY FRUSTRATING OUT HERE
- Save me from the outfield
- *note to self: make yourself sound less desperate before showing anyone this?
- Addendum to the note to self: actually, don’t. let them know how dire the circumstances are. Just wait until you are certain they will not laugh in your face without also banging you

Things I Have Seen in Porn That I Would Like to Try (or the part that is full of stuff on the kinky side but also probably something not creepy to ask people to try):
- Bondage. Preferably me getting tied up. The other way is cool, too, if Future Sex Partner (FSP?) is into it, but I definitely, definitely at some point would like to try the me getting tied up part
- Blindfolds? Or, blindfold. I only have one set of eyes that needs covering up, I’m pretty sure. Maybe you should take my shirt off to check. And my pants.
- Okay, this isn’t something I’ve seen in porn, per se, mostly because I actually don’t have the patience to watch through porn that has this extensive of a plot? But lately I’ve been into the idea of vibrating butt plugs. Especially them being left in for extended periods of time. When I am in public places. Without the whole coming thing. Is it weird that I don’t have the patience to watch it in porn but that I totally want to try it myself?
- Speaking of which, orgasm delay/denial? Less on the long-term denial thing. Like, I’m totally at this point not sure on the “sorry you can’t come for a couple of days” thing. Unless things are really, really fantastic at the end of the period? And that’s actually a pretty good idea, now that I think about it. It’d definitely have to be something I eased into, though, and FSP would have to be someone pretty legit and important to me in order to actually get me to want to not jerk off for longer than like… a day. And they'd have to be able to handle the aftermath properly. I might not know a ton about kink, but AFTERCARE. IT IS A THING.
- Um. I guess specifics on that last one. There’s something both really scary and really exciting about the idea of no toys, just flat out not coming when someone asks it of you?  But in terms of toys, I like the idea of cock rings. Not so hung up on cock cages or chastity belts or any of that stuff, but cock rings are nice and easy and not lockable.
- Comeplay. Like, coming on faces is cool with me as long as none gets in anyone’s eye or anything. I don’t want the sexiness to be ruined by having to clean come off anyone’s eyeball for half the night. I don’t trust magic with eyeball cleaning. Just. Come on skin is kind of weirdly nice to look at? I dunno. I like it.
- AND ALSO GLASSES.
- I trust magic for cleaning glasses
- *******NOTE TO SELF RESEARCH SEX MAGIC PLEASE
- BECAUSE THERE IS PROBABLY SO MUCH POTENTIAL THERE WHY HAVE I NEVER LOOKED UP MAGICAL PORN

Things I Have Seen in Porn That I Am Unsure of (or things that could be tried with the right FSP who is really into it and I know will not accidentally kill me or maim me or seriously psychologically traumatize me in the process):
- Breathplay. I’ve read good things about it, and I’m mildly curious, but I’m also kind of freaked out by the idea of doing it with someone else. Maybe this one only for research and experimentation by myself before deciding what to do with it?
- Coming dry. Actually, this one could mostly probably go up on the second part of the list. Multiple orgasms is something I do even by myself. I usually stop at two, though, because I haven’t tried pushing myself further because I’m usually pretty sensitive and also sleepy at that point. The woes of mostly getting off late at night. Anyway, after two, I’m not coming dry. This one’s down here because it edges more on the painful side of things than I’m used to edging, but I actually really like the idea of coming so many times I’m coming dry.
- Okay. So, let’s be straight here. Or, no. Gay. Let’s be absurdly gay. But let’s also be straightforward, here. I have seen absurd amounts of kittenplay porn. Like, the amount of that that exists is unreal. And it’s always both turned me on and weirded me out a lot? I don’t know that I’m even going to be comfortable keeping this on the list, let alone ever doing it with anyone ever. I think it’d feel less like ownership and more like humiliation for me, because I don’t think I could slip into that kind of mindset, and most of the time, I’m not really quite into the humiliation thing, on the receiving end. Since we’re being honest (and talking in the royal we to prove it), humiliation would have to be very targeted if it was ever a thing with any of my FSPs, because I have such a wide range of insecurities on my own and hitting any of them with any sort of intent that wasn’t overtly loving and affectionate would probably yank me out of a scene in not a good way. But, back to the point. Kittenplay, or any kind of petplay. Probably a no from me, unless handled very carefully and focused much more on ownership and much less on anything else. Though, I’m not even sure I could deal with the ownership thing. I like the idea of collaring, objectively, and the level of commitment and trust that that requires is awesome, but it isn't for me at all. Marking is a thing, though? I guess it's something I'm cool with, but not to extreme degrees. I guess I like the thought of it as just being really, really loved and cared about?  I’m probably removing this and/or reorganizing the tangents for the final draft of the list.
- Sounding. Not really my kink, but it isn’t an absolute no. I’d be willing to give it a shot if my FSP was really, really into it.

Things That Are Not Things (or things that do not turn me on):
- Really, really, really cheesy porn dirty talk
- Cock and Ball Torture. Just. OW.
- Actually, painplay in general.
- Stuff with non-seminal body fluids, like, bloodplay or watersports
- Gags, though this one is probably more negotiable than anything on this part of the list except the really, really cheesy porn dirty talk
- Undernegotiated kink. If I’m doing something not so vanilla, that shit needs to be talked out

Things Kat Thought of Later That Went on the Final Draft:
- Semi-public sex is a thing he wants to try
- In his General Sex Things category, he completely omitted just rubbing off against someone. This was added in.
- After RJ, he adds rimming in the top category just to be able to cross it off
- He’s kind of ambivalent about nipple play. He doesn’t THINK it’s a huge thing for him on the receiving side (totally is on the giving side), but he’d be willing to give it a shot
- Ageplay doesn’t really do much for him at all

Main canon Josh topping for the first time:

Ells: Well, I mean, if he's just there making no noise and pretending he doesn't exist, RJ's not even gonna notice he has company
Kat: He probably makes a choking noise
Ells: *giggles at Josh* caught offguard much? RJ's eyes would pop open and it takes a second for his eyes and his brain to link up and tell him it's Josh and he just kind of stops for a second, doesn't move his hands away but stills, and says, "Oh. Hey."
Kat: Josh looks down and he kind of waves awkwardly. "Er, hi."
Ells: I think RJ quickly realizes that Josh is uncomfortable and, like, drags the sheet over his bottom half. "This is where you're supposed to be like, 'Sorry, am I interrupting something?'"
Kat: "Right. That."
Ells: Josh is behaving really weirdly, to RJ. He's like, "You okay? Nothing you haven't seen before."
Kat: Josh calms down a little. "I'm okay. Just a little surprised, is all."
Ells: RJ just gives him this weirdly questioning look, because it's hard to fit 'dude, YOU skipped into MY apartment' and 'everybody jerks off' and 'my cock has actually been inside of you what could possibly surprise you at this point' into one expression/sentence.
Kat: I think Josh actually blurts out that he'd never seen anything inside RJ before
Ells: RJ gets this really blank look on his face at first and then he realizes no, Josh really hasn't. "Oh. Yeah, that's...I'm too lazy to use my fingers."
Kat: "Oh. That's... nice? I can't say I've done much with toys."
Ells: "You were a single gay kid at boarding school for four years and you never bought a sex toy?" RJ finds this patently ridiculous but he kind of shakes it off. "It's not as good as the real thing, but it gets the job done."
Kat: Josh shakes his head. "I didn't even finger for the longest time."
Ells: He is growing increasingly frustrated with carrying on a conversation with something up his ass xD he doesn't like being interrupted without it becoming a happy ending. "And once you did, you realized what you were missing, right?" He grins, and he realizes he's still quite turned on which is stupid, why is this happening xD
Kat: Josh nods. His attention is drawn back to the toy. "Erm, do you want me to leave?
Ells: RJ weighs his options. "You could leave and I could get off. Or you could stay and I could get off. You pick."
Kat: "Can we go for the one where I actually get to see or help you get off?"
Ells: RJ flips the sheets back off and bends his knees back up and puts his hands behind his head, like he's just kicked back waiting and he doesn't look totally obscene. "Come here, then."
Kat: Josh walks over and kind of hovers awkwardly. Maybe he sits on the bed next to him
Ells: The whole weird tone of this whole thing is starting to get to RJ. "Hey, I can get rid of it if it's weirding you out or something, we can just fuck around." His hand kind of goes halfway to reaching to work it out of him but stops, like he's waiting for Josh to say yay or nay
Kat: Josh shakes his head. "Definitely not weirding me out."
Ells: RJ's just like, "Then....?" because Josh is just kind of there and half the time they're crawling all over each other and he doesn't get why they aren't at least kissing. He doesn't get why Josh is, like, hung up
Kat: Josh just kind of shakes his head. "Just new. I like it maybe a lot?" He leans into RJ and he looks much more comfortable now that he's admitted that
Ells: RJ grins, because /now/ he gets it, and isn't fun getting somebody all surprise!worked up like that? He pulls Josh down so he can kiss him and it makes him squirm. "It's not gonna do anything by itself, you know."
Kat: Josh gets the hint and kind of lets his had trail down RJ's skin until he gets to the toy itself.
Ells: RJ kind of pushes his hips down, closer, like he's trying to fuck himself on it and not really getting anywhere. He's still looking AT Josh, not down at his hand or anything. (I've also only just realized how vulnerable of a position this is for someone like RJ. He is totally naked in a room with the light on about to be fucked by an object and the other person is clothed and ostensibly in control. JUST LOOK AT THE TRUST TAKING PLACE HERE)
Kat: (holy shit that is a lot of trust) Josh starts pushing it in slowly, like he's not quite sure how much force to use, before picking up a bit.
Ells: (Josh is inherently nonthreatening. But really it's just kind of a trust exchange type thing. He's had Josh in some vulnerable positions too, I'm sure, and the whole relationship is kind of an exercise in trust and balance.) RJ makes this low noise, a moan tangled up with an exhale, and lets his head fall back, but he keeps looking at josh. "I won't break. Promise." One hand is kind of trailing down to get his cock back in on the action but he stops just short, not just yet, he wants to properly enjoy this first
Kat: (he's had Josh in a lot of vulnerable positions. It is all about trust and balance for them and it makes me happy). Anyway, Josh speeds up, then, definitely, goes at it harder. "Tell me if it's too much or not right, okay?"
Ells: RJ nods, probably a little too quickly, and licks his lips. "Yeah, a little over to the-" and he doesn't finish giving direction, just shifts his hips minutely to the right and /oh/ that is a much better angle, his back arches up a little. "Just keep doing what you're doing."
Kat: Josh keeps at that and starts kissing at RJ's neck, because it's right there and he likes skin. He definitely is big on skin
Ells: Anything feeling this good without someone touching his dick is kind of nerve-wracking for RJ so he gets a hand around himself, mostly just kind of thumbs over the head, back and forth, and he shivers under Josh's mouth. He definitely goes to say something but it comes out really indistinct
Kat: I think Josh tries to nudge RJ's hand out of the way to take care of him.
Ells: RJ is having none of that, he bats Josh's hand away xD Josh has one job right now. He kind of interprets it as Josh getting impatient with him or something, though, so he moves on to properly jerking himself off.
Kat: Josh kind of giggles, but he refocuses.
Ells: RJ just, he's too caught up to think that hard on it but Josh is fucking GIGGLING in bed and he laughs, sort of, only it comes out sort of sideways and wrong and horny, because that's what's going on here, and he realizes it's really unfair that Josh can be laughing when he's being slowly pulled apart at the seams. He kinda of pushes his hips up in this little circle and bumps Josh with his hand to make him look at him. "Could be doing that with /your/ cock, you know."
Kat: Josh looks at him, mouth parted slightly, looking both awed and baffled by the idea, like it never occurred to him. "Oh. Um..."
Ells: RJ gives him this open-mouthed grin, breathing hard through it and speeding up his hand. "No? You don't want to fuck me with something you can feel?"
Kat: "Now?" Josh sounds eager and incredulous
Ells: "No. Maybe I can pencil you in on Thursday." He laughs and pulls his hand off himself, rests it on his stomach. "Hurry up before I change my mind."
Kat: Josh takes his hands and mouth off RJ and gets his clothes off. "You're closer to the condoms and lube, can you grab them?"
Ells: RJ eases the toy out and tosses it on the bedside table, he'll clean it later, and opens the drawer to get the condoms and lube. "If you put much more lube in me, it's gonna be like fucking a slip-n-slide."
Kat: Josh opens the condom and slips it on. "Okay, maybe not more lube, then."
Ells: "Good." RJ spreads his legs enough that Josh could fit between them and then pauses. "Like this?" In case Josh wants him to turn over or something.
Kat: Josh nods. "Like that." He gets into position. "You ready for this?
Ells: Readier than you are, I think." He kind of grabs Josh by the hips and grinds up. "Come on.
Kat: Josh melts for a second or two before collecting himself again. "Okay, then," he says, and he pushes in smoothly.
Ells: RJ's whole body kind of strings tight for a moment and he turns his face to the side and closes his eyes for a bit. It's been a really long time since he’s felt that. "Real thing's definitely better."
Kat: Josh lets out a short burst of laughter. "Always nice to hear you're better than silicone"
Ells: RJ hooks a leg up and jabs him in the ass cheek with his heel. "Shut /up/, just get on with it."
Kat: "Next thing you'll be telling me to lie back and think of England." Josh starts moving, though, taking a fairly quick, consistent pace.
Ells: RJ rolls his eyes and it's half /wow/ and half 'oh my god, shut up.' "I don't care what you've gotta think about, 's long as you don't stop doing-," his breath catches a little, "that."
Kat: Josh slides into a rhythm, because he isn't used to doing this with RJ, but it's hardly like he has no experience with this. "That's doable."
Ells: RJ is a total twelve-year-old and laughs and repeats the word doable, because right now he's totally doable. It'd take an idiot not to be very aware that Josh does this all the time and he can't really come out and /say/ 'Don't fuck me like you fuck him,' but he's thinking it, so he grabs onto Josh, one hand splayed on his hip and the other on his ass, and tries to pull him in /harder/, make this something different
Kat: Josh gets it, like, immediately. He slows down, but makes it rougher and goes for much deeper thrusts. It's slightly uneven, but he figures that's okay.
Ells: RJ gets kind of caught offguard when he switches up, but it's so good, he's muttering, "Shit," between them, more than once, quiet like they haven't been talking out loud and laughing the whole time, and he's pushing his hips up to meet Josh's
Kat: I think Josh wants to kiss RJ through this, but it's taking a lot of concentration to keep up with what he's doing, because it's definitely different with RJ and he wants to maintain that, out of respect for RJ and Cody. But that's taking concentration and he's biting his lip and it feels amazing but he's trying not to focus on just himself.
Ells: RJ is doing his best to keep his eyes open and when he manages it and sees Josh, the give of his mouth where his teeth are pressing, he wants to be the one making it give like that. I don't think he's up for actual kissing, that slick skilled thing he's good at, just a biting, sucking mess that he keeps leaning up for to keep Josh from having to lean too far down and fuck up his angle. He feels stupidly close and he's torn between waiting Josh out and just grabbing at his cock and getting it over with because otherwise he's going be pacing the edge of something he's not wholly comfortable with
Kat: I think Josh can tell by this point, can see on his face that he's close and maybe a bit indecisive. "Go for it. I haven't been on edge as long as you, and it might take me a bit more. You don't have to wait around."
Ells: I think he kind of tries to dismiss Josh, like, "I'm not fifteen, I can wait," but he knows that kind of thinking is only gonna last for so long.
Kat: Josh kind of nods absently. "Just, whenever's good."
Ells: At this point, RJ is mostly a mess of noises and trying to keep his breathing steady, since that usually pulls him back a little. I have this beautiful little image of his skin kind of damp all over, that 'having a very thorough fuck' sheen of sweat. He's sort of slowly losing it and he's hardly never in that position at all, to have someone driving /him/ crazy like this
Kat: He definitely tries to put more into it, though , but Josh just wants to just... talk. Talk and talk and talk and babble about how amazing RJ looks like this and how good he feels and how he loves RJ. But I don't think he does. I think he thinks the situation is tenuous and he doesn't want to tip things in the wrong direction and he's really unsure. So he just touches RJ as much as possible and keeps at it and he's starting to get closer, but he's still not there quite yet
Ells: Josh's face is just so...a lot of times everything he's thinking is written all over his face because he's so goddamn expressive and this is definitely one of those times, I don't think RJ can even really /fathom/ that look, and Josh isn't letting up and his breath keeps hitching when he tries to make it come easily and Josh already told him it was okay so he just goes there, gets a hand on himself and basically just mindlessly paws at his cock because that's the least of his worries, that's just an excuse to be able to LET GO and it hits him so hard it knocks the wind out of him, it's not one of those that kind of seems to drag on, it just piledrives him. He doesn't say Josh's name, doesn't wanna in that moment, and it would've gotten lost in the wordless sound he was already making as he shook his way through it
Kat: Josh is just... really, really overwhelmed by that. By just watching RJ lose it like that, because that isn't something he's seen before. He is very close, but he doesn't want to keep ramming into RJ once he's already come, because I don't think he knows RJ's stance on overstimulation, really, and so he goes to pull out and take care of himself.
Ells: That upsets RJ in a vague way, there's a definite laziness to his body now but he's definitely not letting Josh just stop. "Don't do all the work and not get the reward." He's quite happy to have Josh fucking him as long as he needs.
Kat: Josh stops before he completely pulls out. "You sure?"
Ells: RJ pushes back against him. "I got mine, you get yours. I want you to." He's half-smiling.
Kat: Josh kisses him briefly as thanks and starts back up again, though his pace is not quite as back-breaking as before. He's taking it slightly slower and slightly shallower because now he's trying to focus on actually getting himself off
Ells: Now that he's not so damn winded and desperate, RJ actually gets to really SEE Josh like this, he keeps moving his hands all over to feel at him, everywhere the muscles are shifting under his skin, and he's trying his best not to lay there like a very satisfied dead weight so he can help Josh along
Kat: With RJ touching him and the fact that he's been at it a while, Josh probably comes pretty quickly afterwards. He doesn't just want to collapse onto RJ, so I think he pulls out and rolls over and just kind of stares at the condom like he doesn't want to bother taking it off but knows he needs to
Ells: RJ wouldn't have minded the collapsing, as long as it didn't at some point magically become cuddling. He's a big boy, he can and HAS handled having someone on top of him. He kinds of shakes out his limbs a little when Josh rolls off though. "Fuck. We're doing that again."
Kat: Josh laughs. "Absolutely. Like, I'm disappointed that hasn't happened before, because wow. You're incredible."
Ells: RJ yawns and frowns disappointedly at the mess he only now remembers he made of himself and debates magic vs washcloth. Magic wins. "I didn't know if you’d be into it. But, yeah, clearly that works for us."
Kat: "I didn't know I'd be into it, either. Apparently I am?"
Ells: RJ laughs. "Sure felt like it. I might've let you catch me sooner if I knew I was gonna come like a freight train. I blame you if I get mocked for walking funny tomorrow."
Kat: "I would be proud to take credit for that."
Ells: "Yeah, yeah. Enjoy it while you can." He gropes around for the sheet and uses it to wipe up some of the sweat on his chest before he lets it settle over him. "I forgot how sleepy that used to make me." (Ellie's comment: I...think you fucked him into submission xD he's all lazy and sleepy and complacent)
Kat: "How long has it been since you've done that?"
Ells: "With someone else? Years. No one ever even asks." That's not true. He's had someone ask and turned them down before. But it really /doesn't/ happen a lot, he just reads as a top
Kat: "That's a shame. That was really, really nice. "
Ells: RJ shrugs. "More for you. Better with you anyway." That was pretty much more than he wanted to say
Kat: Josh definitely goes crinkly-eyed at that.
Ells: RJ flaps a hand at him, he's too lazy to actually say anything about him not getting too cocky or getting any ideas. "I'm going to take a nap now. Anything pressing to do at home?"
Kat: Josh shakes his head. "I'm free for a nap."
Ells: "Then sleep. This is just, like, halftime, change sides." He fluffs his pillow and closes his eyes, ready to ignore any kind of protest.
Kat: Josh agrees and wishes him good night, er, afternnoon and passes out

bondage in main canon


Ells: That'd be kind of out of left field even if Josh WASN'T tied up, so yeah. I feel like beforehand (or oooooooh, maybe after starting, because /mean/) he just spends a whole lot of time putting his hands and mouth in ALL the places while Josh's impatience doesn't have any power over him xD
Kat: That'd drive Josh crazy, which means it's kind of perfect. xD
Ells: I can see RJ enjoying that (more in a pure mean glee way, not a kinky way) kind of thing a lot. Josh not able to do much and him just doing things however, slurping at his cock and then pulling off to pay attention to random body parts, maybe opening him up and sliding inside and just staying there while Josh is all /MOVE/ and even when he does fuck him not doing it /right/, just the most infuriating shit xD
Ells: Eventually he'd get fed up even with himself, though xD
Kat: I'm sure that by that point, Josh'd be in a right state
Ells: Wshjwnjdk a right state. You are forty and British
Kat: Shush xD
Ells: But yeah I think RJ would really get a kick out of that. Just being an utter teasing jerk about it at first
Kat: It'd drive Josh nuts, but I think in this instance, that's definitely not a bad thing
Ells: Just thinking about how RJ absolutely wouldn't give over just because HE had gotten impatient, but once he was satisfied with Josh (I'm not entirely sure at what point that would be, if he just wants Josh at peak impatience and neediness or if he actually expects to make him just /resign himself/ to whatever RJ wants to do), it'd probably be like fucking flipping a switch.
Kat: The peak impatience and neediness would come first. He'd probably only let go and head into the resigned territory if he hit the peak and RJ still didn't let up.
Ells: Yeah, I figured it'd come in that order, but I'm not sure of exactly what RJ wants or how much willpower he has. Like, he would be INCREDIBLY tempted with Josh that needy but he also I think went poking around a bit about bondage and all, not just for the best way to tie someone up but for other info about it, and I feel like he thinks the fullest experience you can get that way is to have totally just given up on having any control over how things are being done, at least as far as impatience goes (as he's obviously not interested in actually doing anything they haven't done before or that might be unwanted in the particular situation). So as really tempted as he is, he'd be thinking he needs to hold out and wait for Josh to just /go with it/ (and omg, I didn't need his hand on Josh's chest and him saying, "Just /take it/," in that goddamn /voice/ that's nothing harsh or rough, it's just this calm little insistence, like if Josh knew what was good for him he would, because then they can get where they're going, go away and leave me to die I'm done)
Kat: I can see the point when it filters into Josh's head. He just wants so, so badly for something to happen and he's unbearably desperate and impatient. RJ's hand feels heavy on his chest, and when RJ tells him to just take it... that tells him it isn't going to change, and that flips the switch in his head, helps him burrow down and cuts off some of the impatience. He realizes that he isn't going to get what he wants unless he lets RJ do what he wants.
Ells: RJ'd be able to feel the difference, I think, that downshift, and it really just pulls at something inside him because this is really different, Josh is still hella impatient and pushy even when he's getting rimmed usually, and this is...Josh really and honestly giving it up, not just accepting that he can't MAKE RJ do anything with his hands or body but that he can't even CONVINCE him to, he's just.../letting/ him, willing, and there's something HUGE about that and he just has to kiss the hell out of Josh because jesus christ
Ells: (it's just really odd for RJ because he doesn't...it's different than what his experience with it was, you know? It's an entirely different feel beyond just the fact that he's on the other end of things, and there's also the fact that he's never done this to someone before, not that no one's ever asked, but that he wasn't up for it with them, and now there's this fucking /trust/ thing going on and. Yeah.)
Kat: RJ kissing Josh makes it easier for him to sink completely into the proper headspace for this, because it's something solid and familiar and helps remind Josh that he trusts RJ (we were both thinking about trust, apparently) and that RJ will give him something that will feel good. It helps him to think of it as RJ giving him something, because that helps ease the idea that it's something he has to, or even can, work for.
Ells: RJ feels his impatience settle down too, eases with the way Josh's does, and he takes a couple seconds to just have this, to look and to touch and have that be all for a little while, with Josh just /there/ and accepting it, and then (I totally already said he was already in josh right I'm not hallucinating that), when he's had his fill of that peaceful, heady little moment of an utterly different kind of power than he's used to, he starts to slowly roll his hips, but it's /deliberate/, with intent behind it, like he's just getting started.
Kat: (you are not hallucinating you totally said that)
Kat: Josh is loud but still like this. He isn't trying to buck up into RJ to get him to move more quickly. He isn't squirming around trying to get the angle right. He isn't grabbing at things, tangling his hands in hair or the blankets, to relieve some of the tension because the tension's already leaked out of him. He shudders when RJ moves, because it somehow feels like more than he's used to, just having RJ slowly fuck into him, and it's a little bit overwhelming. He doesn't say much, but he's almost constantly making some noise, a gasp or a low moan. I'd say he wants RJ to know that he's okay and that he feels good, but I don't even think it's a conscious decision, really.
Ells: This all is affecting RJ a lot more than it usually does. He's still got what he's doing under control, but there's something so...heavy about what's happening, his breath is coming all wrong, everything just /feels/ to a greater extent than usual, and it's ridiculously intimate without feeling soft or mushy and romantic. His pace speeds up really gradually, and it never loses that sense of being deliberate, like each individual thrust in and slide out is its own act. He goes back to running a hand over Josh like before, feeling places where he's relaxed and places that are drawn tight because Josh can't help it, it's not tension but just what happens to your body when you feel good. He feels like he should say something, a couple times, but he doesn't know what, and he doesn't wanna break whatever it is they have going, so he just keeps fucking Josh, feeding off all his sounds and the way he looks and the feels, inside and out.
Kat: It's weird, for Josh, having RJ going so slowly and intentionally and not really feeling any strong need to get him to go faster or harder or anything other than what he's doing. He doesn't feel like he's in a hurry at all, and in a weird way, that means the pressure's off and he's completely in the moment. He almost seems surprised by the slow drag of every thrust, and every time RJ touches him, it leaves his skin sensitive and tingling.
Ells: I think RJ had anticipated waiting until Josh was nice and docile and then just kind of giving it to him, but that was when he was impatient, and at this point it would seem unbearably wrong and out of place. Instead, he drags the hands he's been touching Josh with down his stomach and wraps it around his cock, and he finally stops watching Josh's face and looks down at where's he moving inside Josh and his hand working when he does his best to match it up with his thrusts, long pulls that linger a little at the head before he strokes back down again.
Kat: When RJ wraps his hand around Josh, Josh jolts slightly and moans, because he definitely wasn't expecting that any time soon. Everything feels hypersensitive, and it's no different with his dick. Even the slow, deliberate touches are making his breathing slower and uneven. His cheeks and chest are flushed, and he didn't know he could be as close as he is when RJ's given him so little.
Ells: RJ startles a little when Josh jolts, but doesn't change anything, because the moan probably means it's okay. He asks, "Yeah?" anyway, and it's not like his usual yeah, where the question mark is useless, because he knows the answer. It's a real question, and it's more breath than voice almost.
Kat: "Mmhm," comes out pretty easily, but it occurs to Josh that he should probably actually say something, because in the back of his head, he remembers that RJ and him don't usually do this stuff, and so more communication is probably better. It takes a bit for the words to get to his mouth, but he says, "Yeah. 'S good."
Ells: RJ breathes out again, with as much force as it took before to ask his question, but there's a bit of a grin around it this time. No matter /how/ he's doing something, it always hits him just right to know he's doing it /well/ and Josh looks so fucking hot like this and he's getting off on it too and this is way, way better than he'd expected it to be, way better than even the beginning of this when he was just getting his jollies messing around. He fucks Josh harder, not really picking up speed but putting more force behind it, using his weight to drive in and heaving out those breaths, some of them picking up a little sound just before they taper off, low and totally involuntary.
Kat: Josh gets louder when RJ starts fucking into him harder. His eyes are closed, and he has no intention of opening them, since it's preventing him from predicting what RJ's going to do and it's adding to the already high sensitivity and also because he's pretty sure that if he looks RJ in the eyes right now, there's a high probability that the amount of time before he comes will be cut in half.
Ells: RJ's actually torn for a second because he's gotten his rhythm matched up how he wants, but he also feels like he's not doing everything he can, like there are parts of him too far from Josh. Leaning in closer is gonna fuck up his stroke on Josh's dick, but he tips in closer anyway until he can get his mouth on Josh, anywhere he can reach, trying not to focus too much on his neck because he knows that's an entirely different level of stuff and if he stays there too long he's afraid Josh will just be wound up all over again.
Kat: It's good that he avoids Josh's neck, because Josh is almost but not quite to the place where Josh would stay all pliant and willing to let RJ control the pace with RJ’s mouth on his neck. It's actually also probably a good thing that the change in positioning means RJ messes with his stroke on Josh's dick, because that means that RJ's mouth on his skin doesn't bring him right up to the edge of coming. Otherwise, that's probably right where he would be
Ells: At this point, RJ isn't worried about /when/ Josh comes, as long as he can keep him from struggling back to that desperate place. He wants Josh to come just like this, not reaching and working for it but just letting it happen to him. RJ himself is having to be really fucking careful and focus on what he wants for Josh to keep his hips from going jerky and abrupt, ruining everything. He was right, he can't /quite/ get back that rhythm with the way his arm is held, but he doesn't stop jerking Josh off anyway, still slow but all out of sync.
Kat: The way things are now, unless something dramatically different happens, Josh isn't going back to the desperate place. He's not used to the place he is now, where he can't really seem to focus on a single thought for very long and where he's not needy and desperate. He really likes how it feels, though, and he feels even more relaxed than he does when RJ's rimming him. It'd take a lot to jolt him out of that, since he is so settled there by this point. Everything being out of sync adds to the sense of unpredictability for Josh, because he was slowly getting used to the pattern from before and now everything's different, even though it's still steady and still good.
Ells: RJ's been so caught up in what he's doing and running off reactions that he's forgotten that he hasn't really /said/ anything, that Josh managed to say it was good for him. He finally does put his mouth on Josh's neck, slow and open and wet and careful, because he doesn't really have words for it right now that wouldn't sound out of place.
Kat: It didn't even occur to Josh that it wasn't good for RJ, really. Afterwards, when he's coming out of it a bit, he will need the reassurance, but in the moment, he figures that if it weren't good for RJ, and that if he wanted something different, he'd tell Josh or he'd manhandle things so they'd be better for him. RJ's mouth on Josh's neck doesn't bring Josh up any. The movements are gentle and cautious and Josh has had his eyes closed most of the time, but he opens them to see RJ's expression. He wants to know if it looks as loving as RJ feels.
Ells: RJ's face is probably the clearest and most blatant it's ever been, expression-wise, because he usually reserves anything like awe or fondness without the touch of exasperation for when he's somewhere Josh can't see. He's found himself in one of those moments where he honestly can't believe that Josh is even something real and that he gets to do this, that there's enough between them that he can give him whatever he wants to give, it's not a chance to impress or to just /take/. He's looking at Josh like something he's never even been able to touch until now, and his expression doesn't change when he realizes Josh is looking at him and looks back, minus the way his eyes go just that bit darker.
Kat: Josh feels warm and floaty and happy and everything feels good right now, for him. His tongue feels heavy, but he needs to tell RJ /something/ to let him know this is brilliant and how wonderful RJ is for giving it to him. "Love you. Feels really good. Thank you."
Ells: RJ shushes him because there's literally no reason for Josh to be thanking him right now. Hearing Josh like that, though, telling him how good it feels without being asked, that's just making it too much for RJ. He starts to fuck Josh faster, and it shakes him down a little because he's been hard for so long and when he was going so slowly it was more like maintaining that than moving toward getting off, but now it's /definitely/ something. He really meant to put his head back down, hide his face against Josh's neck, but now that he's looking he can't just look away. "It's good," he finally says, nodding, and it comes out half-choked. "Amazing."
Kat: He didn't really NEED the reassurance from RJ, but getting it anyway feels really good. Josh's face was already so soft and open and trusting, but the smile that breaks out onto his face makes it even more obvious. He looks so happy and warm and into this, his eyes glassy and his smile bright and unreserved and his cheeks flushed. When RJ picks up the pace, his eyes slip shut and his smile gives way to his puffy, pink lips parting to let noises out. He's really close, but he doesn't think he can find the words to say it, and he can't use his hands, tugging at clothes or hair or anything, to let RJ know. So he just lets it build up.
Ells: RJ outright moans (someone mark that down somewhere) looking down at Josh, that mouth, and he thinks they're probably not at 100% capacity for actual kissing but he has just enough reach and self-control to lean in get his mouth on Josh's, laving his tongue against Josh's bottom lip, sucking on it. The hand he has on Josh's cock isn't quite obeying anymore, grip tightening for just a second at a time like a spasm or sliding too fast for a few strokes. His focus is starting to go out the window, and he's trying hard to balance fucking Josh just right, enough to get him there, without totally losing it himself.
Kat: When Josh comes, it almost catches him by surprise, RJ pulling and Josh spilling onto RJ's hands before it even filtered in that he was there. He tends to measure how close he is in large part through desperation and how badly he feels he needs to come, but this way, that wasn't there. On the comedown, he's shaking a little, and his limbs feel tingly (there's a second in there when he forgets he's tied up, and he goes to move his hand to touch RJ and gets caught by surprise when the restraints prevent it), but he feels satisfied and relaxed and nice and fuzzy.
Ells: RJ's breath catches and he shudders in relief, feeling Josh come. He'd meant to pull out then because as much as he'd normally be okay with fucking Josh after he's already come, he didn't want to ruin everything with too much stimulation. Turns out it's not even a problem, because Josh's body tightening up around him and the feel of him spilling hot over RJ's hand is just enough, perfect, and it feels like unspooling, long and slow and gradual. He doesn't collapse when he's done, slides his hand away from Josh's cock to his hip and going back to pressing his mouth all over. He may not be a cuddler but he's not quite ready for whatever this is to be over.
Kat: Josh is a little bit out of it, but he can feel when RJ comes and he can feel RJ's mouth on him. He isn't quite sure what it means, but it feels nice, so he just lets RJ have fun with it
Ells: It takes a minute for RJ to pull himself together and pull out, and he still doesn't let himself give over and relax, because remembers Josh is tied, and he lets his hands loose before he finally lets himself sink onto the bed next to Josh.
Kat: Josh takes a second and flexes his hands and wrists and stretches his arms out before easing back down onto the bed. He knows RJ isn't super cuddly, but this is one of those times when Josh really wants the physical contact, so he nuzzles up into RJ's side.
Ells: RJ doesn't even put up a fight and gets one arm around Josh, closing his eyes and relaxing, waiting to settle back into his body the right way.
Kat: Josh's head still feels a bit slow and cloud-filled in the best possible way, but cuddling with RJ helps center him a bit. When he's to the point where he can keep thoughts in his head, he decides talking should be a thing. His words still come out a bit slowly, compared to his usual motormouth speech, but they're much clearer and easier than when he was tied up. "How was it? For you?"
Ells: RJ's eyebrows go up, but his eyes stay closed. "I think my fucking brain leaked out my ears." His voice is just as slow and lazy as everything else about the whole moment.
Kat: Josh huffs out a laugh. "Glad I'm not the only one."
Ells: "Definitely not. Shit. You just...." He rolls his head back and forth.
Kat: "Hmm?" Josh asks. "I just..." He's thinking that Seth would tell RJ to use his words, but he's not going to bring up Seth when they're naked
Ells: "I told you to take it and you just did." He still sounds like he kind of can't believe how everything went down.
Kat: Josh pinks up. "I... yeah. I did."
Ells: "I didn't think I'd like it as much as I did. It was fun, and then it was...." He laughs a little, shoulders jumping. "You were there, you know."
Kat: "Intense? That's the only word coming to mind for me. Maybe things were different up in my head, though. I mean, I'm sure they were, but..."
Ells: "Yeah. Intense works. Never really had it quite like that."
Kat: "Me either. It was definitely good intense, though. For me."
Ells: RJ squeezes the arm he has around Josh in tighter, pulling them even closer for a second. "Me too. Seriously, it was fucking awesome. You were awesome."
Kat: Josh smiles. "It's not like I really did much," he says, almost sounding embarrassed. "You were doing most of the work."
Ells: RJ shrugs. "You had a different job. Nobody would ever believe you did it, either."
Kat: Josh laughs. "I'm still in shock that I did it."
Ells: "You did, though. It took a while, but you did it."
Kat: "I'm not sure whether I should be impressed with myself or not."
Ells: "I'll be impressed enough for both of us. You didn't even /move/. Just let me fuck you how I wanted."
Kat: "Well, it didn't seem like you were going to fuck me any other way." Josh is still smiling, though, and it's obvious how much he's enjoying talking about how exciting this was for both of them, because he enjoyed it quite a bit and hearing from RJ that it was good and that he's proud of Josh is pretty awesome.
Ells: "I would've given up eventually. Even I can't hold out forever."
Kat: "It's a good thing you're more patient than I am."
Ells: "Everyone's more patient than you are, Josh."
Kat: "That can't be true."
Ells: "But you can't prove it's not."
Kat: Josh pouts. "Statistically, though."
Ells: "Doesn't matter anyway. I got your impatient little ass to hold still and we figured it out."
Kat: Josh nods. "And it was nice."
Ells: RJ laughs, because he always thinks it's funny when Josh applies words like that to sex. "Wrists okay?"
Kat: "Yup. Not even sore, really."
Ells: "Good. Hurting you wasn't in the agreement."
Kat: "No, it definitely wasn't."
Ells: RJ takes his arm from around Josh and stretches it out across the bed, finally starting to slip back into the way he normally feels. "Everyone got off, no one got hurt. Success, yeah?"
Kat: "Definitely a success."
Ells: "So, does that mean you're marking it off the list?"
Kat: He thinks about that. "I think it's one of those once in a blue moon kind of things. I'm up for a repeat, if you are, just not all the time."
Ells: RJ shrugs. "I'd do it again. Hell, I'd probably- uh."
Kat: Josh waits patiently for him to finish.
Ells: "You made it look not so bad."
Kat: Josh blinks. "You want me to tie you up?"
Ells: RJ's brows furrow. "Want is a strong word. Just seems like it'd be smart to try it when it's my idea instead of...whatever."
(it cuts out after that but here you go)

Josh's first blowjob and Cody's second

Kat: I suspect that Josh, being Josh, sleeps until people don't let him
Ells: Cody is a hard sleeper, but it's not nighttime and he's not as fucking TIRED back then as he is down the road, so he probably naps pretty damn soundly, and when he wakes up he's still his Cody self, groggy and not at all aware of what's going on around him for a good while because waking up sucks /so badly/
Kat: So they probably both conk out for a long time. I feel like Cody wakes up first
Ells: I hope this is a Saturday and not a Sunday or else Cody will have his sleep all messed up
Ells: Anyway, Cody wakes up, bleary as he always is, so when his thoughts stop being 'what was I dreaming' and 'ugh I taste like I've been mouth-breathing', he slowly starts to realize he's naked and kind of gross, which is not an unusual way to wake up for him, except when he goes to make a comment about it to Colette, who is always awake before him, she is not there, because Josh is. Cody takes it in on a visual level, I think, gives himself a moment to choose between dealing and not dealing, and figures the best move is to go wet a rag and clean himself and probably use some mouthwash. When he goes to drop the rag in the sink he pauses, considers, runs it through the water a little again, and carries it back and just sort of drops it on Josh.
Kat: Josh probably does not wake up
Ells: Cody’s mouth goes all :S and he shakes Josh’s shoulder a little.
Kat: Josh does wake up at that, but it’s a groany kind of “I don’t want to be up “ thing, and he probably swats at Cody and is all, “Not yet, Seth,” since he hasn’t opened his eyes yet
Ells: Cody actually laughs. One, still-mostly-asleep harsh bark of a laugh, totally against his will. “Not Seth, Josh.”
Kat: Josh pops one eye open. “Oh, hey Cody,” he says, and he still sounds sleepy and out of it, but once Cody says it isn’t Seth, he doesn’t seem surprised or anything. It settles in pretty quickly what happened. Ells: Cody starts picking up all the clothes that are his and sort of pushing Josh's into a little pile. “I brought you a rag.”
Kat: Josh groans, but he eases himself up. “Thanks,” he mumbles, and he kind of swipes ineffectively at himself with the rag.
Ells: Cody… oh my god I really need a picture of the Jackson-face he is making in my head. Anyway, he’s got this look on his face like ‘wow, really, you poor thing,’ but he’s also a little amused.
Kat: Josh is useless when he’s really sleepy. I think he bemoans there being no coffee places catering to naked people and then realizes he’s said it out loud.
Ells: "If you brought your phone, you could text Colette. She's good at coffee runs."
Kat: Josh eases himself up. "Nah, I'm not that desperate for it. My brain'll kick in soon." He tries again with the rag and is much more successful
Ells: Cody hums a little and finishes deciding which of the clothes go in the hamper and which of them need folding back up for the dresser. Busying himself seems to be working, a little
Kat: Josh finishes up and eyes the pile of his clothes. "I'm guessing there's going to be talking going on, and that it should probably happen with clothes on."
Ells: "Talking?" He does grab himself a pair of fresh underwear though
Kat: Josh shrugs and follows Cody's lead, getting his underwear and putting them on. "Stuff happened, right? Like, I think that usually merits talking and stuff. I don't know." There’s an unspoken ‘last time we didn’t talk and things went to shit’ in there. “’S all I’m good at, really.”
Ells: Cody is thinking no, no it's really not, but that’s not something he knows how to discuss. “So talk.”
Kat: Josh hums for a second, stalling a little to give him a second to sort out his thoughts and get his head into something resembling awake enough to have this discussion. "That wasn't PG."
Ells: Cody's eyebrows furrow. “Um.” He’s not sure what movie ratings have to do with anything, and also PG was code for pregnant back home, which also makes no sense.
Kat: "There was like... actual getting off there. And I liked it. Like, I liked it a LOT. But last time there was getting off, it put you in a not good place."
Ells: Cody sits back down on the edge of the bed, facing away from Josh. "What do you want me to say? I....obviously I liked it too."
Kat: Josh looks at him. He wants to give him a hug, but he doesn't think that's appropriate or whether it's... okay, I guess. "I just wanted to make sure you're... okay, I guess. Not freaking out in a really bad way." Josh is trying to be very cautious. He doesn’t want to be his usual verbal elephant stampede.
Ells: “I told you not to let me freak out.” Cody doesn't /think/ he's freaking out. Like, he didn’t even TALK to Josh after the first time. He’s just firmly not processing, because trying to pick at it will cause bad things to happen, and Josh being all hovery is not helping. Josh’s normal self would probably help a little, actually.
Kat "You did," Josh said. I think he's starting to realize that he isn't actually helping and that he's making Cody a little bit uncomfortable. So, he tilts his head at Cody a little before waggling his fingers at Cody. He looks like an absolute doof, but afterwards, he looks satisfied, and he leans back into the bed and snuggles into Cody’s blankets.
Ells: Cody feels awkward being up and about with someone else in his bed. That like… never happens, and he’s not really sure what he’s supposed to… what is the protocol here? So he kind of just gets back into bed and stares at the ceiling, which is IN NO WAY BETTER, but it’s something to do.
Kat: Josh pouts at him a little. “That didn’t work, did it?” He pokes Cody.
Ells: Cody shuts his eyes and blows all his air out through his mouth. He’s kind of frustrated. This shouldn’t be this /weird/. "Guess not."
Kat: "Well damn." He... he's just wanted to hug Cody since they've woken up and he's not sure if that's okay or not but he really, really wants to, so he does. He rolls over and he gives Cody a big hug, because if one of his little goofy childhood things that his mom used to do doesn't work, then he thinks hugs are the next logical choice.
Ells: I think Cody startles a little, but like, this is the language Cody speaks best, and it takes a minute but he lets himself press into it, it’s just a hug, it’s a simple thing. The stuff he did earlier with Josh's body may be new but Josh's body itself isn't. He’s gotten used to it. I have a feeling he's just as random-touchy in private with Josh as he is with Colette, which is why the flinching in public and all was so obvious. It's something he'd normally go for and he has to kind of...snap back and remember himself.
Kat: Josh just holds him for a while. He can feel when Cody finally relaxes, but he doesn't really want to let go of Cody. Josh asks him, "Hey, you remember the first time we kissed? How right before, I wanted you to promise me you'd do what's best for you guys, even if it meant dropping me? And you said that it wouldn't get there, that you wouldn't let it?"
Ells: That kind of draws Cody out of the little peaceful place he'd been digging out for himself. “Yeah, I remember.”
Kat: "I'm not going to let it get there, either. You're really, really important to me, and I'm not going to let this get weird."
Ells: Cody makes this little noise, it's like a snort of disbelief, but the emotion behind it is more like 'I am really worried you're wrong.’ “Okay.” He feels… it’s a weird feeling, but he doesn’t want to deal with that, and I think he kisses Josh, not on the mouth, just wherever he canr each at the moment, presses his mouth there for a second, soft and dry.
Kat: Josh just hums quietly, keeps his arms wrapped around Cody. He knows Cody doesn't really sound like he believes him, but he thinks talking might not be the most effective method. I think he's in the process of actually, really working out that Cody's really just as bad at the talking thing as he said, and Josh is totes comfortable being there holding Cody and having Cody kissing his neck
Ells: Cody just lets everything be for a second, trying to let all the safe parts of his brain turn on, and once they're up and running, he says, "You should still probably text Colette. I don't know how long we were asleep."
Kat: “That’d involve getting up.” And then Josh realizes that, no, it doesn’t. He’s magic. So he gets his phone and taps out a message.
Ells: I think Cody finds it funny how often people with magic kind of /forget/. Earlier he was thinking ‘wiggling your fingers isn’t magic’ when Josh did the thing and then he was like ‘well….’
Kat: that's why Josh did it, actually. He didn’t explain it, but his mom had a fundamental misunderstanding of magic, and thought wiggling her fingers and saying, "Everything's okay" worked. Granted, it always made little!Josh giggle, which did make things okay, in a weird way. Josh has always considered it muggle magic.
Ells: Anyway, Cody is trying to absorb what’s going on, I think. Like if he focuses on it long enough while he’s not freaking it’ll start to feel normal? But focusing on Josh still mostly undressed in his bed just makes his brain rewind to getting Josh all the way undressed in his bed, earlier, which kind of doesn’t want to make him throw up, which is new. So he probably seems kind of....far away, distant, but he’s still /looking at Josh/. Jesus christ, hudson, you are the strangest person, I can't deal with you
Kat: I think Josh just... lets it be for a bit. Josh just feels really, really out of his depth
Ells: Eventually I think Cody starts to feel weird, because he's usually quiet, but Josh isn't, and neither is Colette, so he's not used to being in quiet, and finally he's like, "So, if it wasn't PG.....what was it?"
Kat: "Um... R, probably?" Josh blinks. "I have no idea. I don't actually know much about the movie rating system besides what ages you're allowed to watch everything."
Ells: "Nobody follows those rules anyway."
Kat: Josh laughs. "I know I didn't, definitely."
Ells: Cody bites his lip. "There's something above R, right?"
Kat: "Porn."
Ells: Cody blinks. "Oh." He's thinking that he figured there was some stuff like what they did earlier in porn, too, so does that make it rated R or porn but that's a rambly train of thought and his mouth can't ramble the way his head does
Kat: Josh grins. "I mean, I'm sure there's other stuff up there, too, but that's all I've ever seen above R. And I guess what we did could be R or higher, but it would depend a lot on what they showed of it."
Ells: "I don't really....watch that stuff."
Kat: Josh tilts his head. "Really?"
Ells: Cody shrugs. "Why would I need to?"
Kat: "That's a valid point. You had Colette."
Ells: "I didn't need anything e-" He breaks off and realizes what he's saying, and who he's talking to. "I didn't.../don't/ need to watch other people have sex."
Kat: "I never really /needed/ to. But it was fun, in a weird kind of way. It gave me ideas. I know a lot of it's acting and a lot of it probably wouldn't be plausible in real situations, but it gave me things to research and help figure out what things I might like and what things I was completely not cool with."
Ells: Cody is kind of astonished by the fact that that sort of makes sense, but it's still not...he's thinking that it's not for him. "There are things you're not okay with?"
Kat: Josh shrugs like it's obvious. "Of course there are. Everyone's got some stuff that they don't like, right?"
Ells: "I don't know." for cody a lot of stuff...a lot of stuff is a /mix/ of NO and please yes, so he doesn't really know how to interpret those kinds of feelings. "I haven't done anything you don't like, right?"
Kat: Josh smiles. "Nope, you haven't. Don't worry about it, honestly. Most of the stuff I'm not cool with is on the extreme side of kinky, and I can't see us running into it any time soon, if at all."
Ells: Cody eases a little at that, because he /does/ worry, he was always careful with Colette and there's a similar instinct to be careful with Josh, not just for his own sake. "Good. That's....yeah. That's good."
Kat: Josh nods. "In theory, there's nothing with vanilla sex stuff that doesn't turn me on. Makes things nice for everyone involved, I think."
Ells: Cody still thinks it's funny sometimes, the things Josh says, because they don't really...have the same vocabulary. "It was nice before." He has a hell of a lump in his throat, but he's coming around to the level of okay where he can talk about it a little more directly.
Kat: Josh lights up a little at that. "It was. It was really nice."
Ells: "I don't really....know what I'm doing. So. I was hoping I didn't do....anything weird."
Kat: "I don't really know what I'm doing, either," Josh admits. "But, in my opinion, you didn't do anything weird."
Ells: Cody gives a little sigh. "Okay. So we could. That's something we could.." He kinda lifts one shoulder, like he can nudge the rest out. "Do again?"
Kat: Josh beams at him. "Absolutely."
Ells: Cody can't help but smile just the barest bit back at him. "Okay." He’s also thinking WHEN, but, y’know, things you do and don’t say aloud
Kat: It's funny, because Josh was thinking in that same direction. The “when” direction. So he says, “Soon?” with this terrible innocent expression.
Ells: Cody's smile widens, half out of disbelief that they're kind of on the same page. "Uh. Whenever."
Kat: Josh smiles. Inside his head he's all hseefahaerfe and excited and just so HAPPY. So he kisses Cody.
Ells: anyway Cody keeps his eyes open for a second, like what, and then he shuts them and kisses back and then pulls away and says, "When Colette does that it usually means /now/."
Kat: Josh laughs. "I wouldn't mind now, but mostly that meant I'm happy."
Ells: Cody just… half of what all of this was, once it started, was making sure that Josh was happy and not getting hurt, so hearing it, so...just matter-of-fact, Cody is just a mess inside, but it's a happy mess. "Now would be...okay."
Kat: "And on the plus side, we're both already mostly naked!"
Ells: Cody laughs. "Did you tell Colette where you were?" He's gauging how likely it is that she's going to just show up
Kat: Josh shakes his head. "Just told her we passed out for a bit."
Ells: "She knows then." Cody licks his lips. his brain is flicking through images, won't settle on any of them, stuff they've done that he wants to re-do, stuff they haven't done yet
Kat: "That okay?"
Ells: "She's probably throwing a party about it."
Kat: "Probably." Josh grins. Colette totally isn't the only one
Ells: "She's probably trying to...give us some time, too."
Kat: "We should make use of that time."
Ells: Cody nods his agreement, a little hesitantly. "What do you....um."
Kat: "I'm happy with anything. Is there something you really want to try?"
Ells: Cody kind of wants a redo on the whole blowjob thing now that he's a little more in his right mind but his words are kind of tripping in and out again. "Maybe we can just-" He cuts himself off and leans in and kisses Josh, because that's sort of his way of saying 'we'll just go with it'
Kat: "Works for me." Josh pushes back into the kiss
Ells: Cody probably gets handsy right off, just Josh's arms and shoulders and back, because he's been so /careful/ for so long, but his kisses aren't in any hurry, slow and deep
Kat: Josh melts into it, just kissing and once Cody starts getting handsy, I think he follows Cody's lead, though he's more focused on his stomach and abs and all
Ells: I think that gives Cody an idea. He grabs one of Josh's hands and for a second he just kind of links their fingers together. Kissing and hand-holding!! But then he kind of pulls it up to his chest, because hey he's allowed to get off now. Nipples pls
Kat: For some odd reason, Josh seems to follow Cody's drift when they're having sex better than any other time. He keeps the hand that Cody is holding in Cody's hand, and with his other hand, he reaches up and rolls Cody's nipple between his thumb and index finger gently.
Ells: Cody's mouth goes wide and slack for a second, sloppy, but then it just kind of /sharpens/ everything, and he’s kissing with more focus.
Ells: He tries to be easy about it. I think he even maybe he just sort of nudges Josh that way and then goes up on his knees so he's not all laid out on Josh right off.
Kat: Josh shifts and goes as flat on the bed as he can, because a LOT of the time he pictured Cody on top. Not always, but a lot of the time. But even while they're repositioning, he's still playing with Cody's nipples
Ells: Cody slowly, slooooowly lowers himself, making sure he's still supporting all of his weight against the mattress and not on Josh. He's very wary of that. Kissing Josh is the only way to make sure he's not making stupid noises
Kat: Josh, without even thinking, brings his hips up, and I think it's that point when he realizes they both have underwear on, and that he doesn't have clean underwear with him besides that pair, so he breaks the kiss temporarily to say, "Clothes. No clothes."
Ells: Cody just nods agreement, and instead of going for his own he goes for Josh's
Kat: Good, because otherwise, Josh was TOTALLY going to ask him to take his off, and so when Cody just goes for it, Josh makes a pleased little noise and keeps his hips off the ground so Cody can take them off somewhat easily
Ells: Cody has no grace about it, just sort of tugs at them until they do what he wants. He realizes he's gotta do some maneuvering to get them the entire way off and when he does he figures he might as well get rid of his while it'll be easy and drops them both off the side of the bed
Kat: Josh stares down at Cody for a second, and he really, really, really wants to get his mouth on Cody. He's never done it before, but he is pretty sure it's okay, finally, and so he shifts down a bit, so that he's below Cody's chest and he asks Cody, "Can I suck you off?"
Ells: Cody's already kind of feeling on the spot. He feels kind of weird, pinned almost, by Josh watching him, and then he kind of chokes on nothing when Josh asks so bluntly. "If you...is that what you want?"
Kat: Josh nods emphatically. "Yeah, I really, really want to."
Ells: Cody says, "Oh," but says is not really the right word, at all, because it's more like a moan of agreement, but he's nervous, shouldn't be but he is. "How do you want me to...what's going to be comfortable?"
Kat: Josh hasn't even thought that far ahead, and he doesn't really know. "Um... I guess... not like this? I don't know. I've never done this before."
Ells: Cody's thinking that he doesn't really know anything either, he only did it once, but it was alright for him then, on the bed, easier on his knees than the way he sometimes eats Colette out, with her pulled to the bed's edge and him kneeling on the floor. "I can lie down.
Kat: Josh nods. "That'd be nice."
Ells: Cody dips down and kisses him again before he rolls off and pulls a pillow to put behind him so he doesn't have to crane his head to see. Before Josh can even move or anything he asks, "Are you sure?"
Kat: Josh nods. "I'm absolutely certain." He moves so he's positioned over Cody, and he leans down and just licks a tentative stripe on Cody's dick
Ells: Cody actually laughs a little, he's remembering Colette's little game, and how she'd done that, just licked first.
Kat: Josh is a little unsettled by Cody laughing, so he looks up at Cody, his head tilted like, "We good?"
Ells: Cody nods at him, just once, eyes fixed on his mouth
Kat: Josh licks his lips and then he goes down again, this time actually trying to take Cody in his mouth. He doesn't take Cody deep, since he wants to adjust to the way it feels. He doesn't think Cody's going to move, but it's just more comfortable for Josh to use one of his hands to keep Cody's hips pinned to the bed, and he uses the other to guide Cody into his mouth and to take care of what he isn't quite ready for yet.
Ells: Cody thinks he should be....y'know, totally chill, because someone does this to him /all the time/ but that's...that is /Josh's/ mouth and he doesn't lose his cool enough to move, he can control that at least and make it easy on Josh. His breathing is still pretty slow, but it comes shaking out every time, loud. He doesn't know what to do with his hands, he's not going to put them on Josh's head like he would with colette because Josh doesn't have the proper hang of this and it'd be rude.
Kat: Josh is really kind of embarrassed by how inexperienced he is? But Cody hasn't said anything and he figures he's going slow and doesn't quite have the hang of it, but he's being super, super careful to avoid teeth, and he doesn't think he's doing anything really /bad/. So he focuses on making it as good as he can, slowly taking Cody deeper and sucking and tonguing what's already in his mouth
Ells: Cody tenses for just a second, having to kind of lock up to keep from moving, and he realizes how quiet he's being. He rubs his hand against the back of Josh's where it's pinning his hips and breathes out, "Yeah," tries to make it reassuring
Kat: Josh /is/ reassured by that, at least a little. He's still inching Cody in, and he's getting to the point where he's feeling like he can't comfortably take much more. So, he starts focusing less on getting as much of Cody in his mouth as he can and more on what fun things he can do with Cody. . He pulls off a little bit to see how sucking on the head makes Cody react.
Ells: Cody's hand clutches at Josh's hand, fingers scrabbling. His eyes shut tight for a second but he fight back against it to watch, because he's had to picture this before but now it's happening.
Kat: Josh goes back down again, taking as much as he can into his mouth without gagging, working much more quickly this time. When he's there, he sucks again.
Ells: Cody's just kind of making noises by now, putting all his work into keeping still and watching, and he feels on edge, and he finally figures out what to do with his other hand because he still wants to see what it's like for his nipples to be involved in the orgasm process, and he groans when he gets his fingers on one and tugs at Josh's fingers a little. "Soon," he pants out, and then, "where do you...oh my god."
Kat: Josh pulls off just long enough to say, "In my mouth," and his lips are swollen and red and his voice is lower and slower than normal, but he seems pretty certain. He sucks Cody back in and goes back to work.
Ells: Cody would...probably argue if that wasn't maybe one of the hottest things ever, not just the idea of it but Josh wanting it and hearing him say it, and he finally can't keep watching, tips his head back and presses it hard into the pillow. "J-Josh." He knows he's right there and the guy deserves a warning.
Kat: Josh hums and presses his thumb into the skin of Cody's hip to let him know, "Yeah, I gotcha, go ahead and come." He's just kind of flabbergasted that he is MAKING CODY COME.
Ells: Cody lets out one of those rare, cut-off, "Fffff-," and his whole body strings up tight for a second and then he's coming, and it's not...it's not something warm and slow or an all-over wash or...it's like a series of gunshots, hard and sharp, bam bam bam, and he slumps
Kat: When Cody comes, Josh pulls off some so that he won't choke on Cody's come. One of Josh's GSA friends told him once that you should suck them through it, so Josh tries that, continuing to suck Cody gently through his orgasm.
Ells: Cody makes these little desperate noises, first strictly because it feels delicious and then because ohhh my god, he's gotta stop and he still doesn't wanna push at Josh's head so he pushes at his hand and groans, "That's-" but that's kind of all he's got
Kat: Josh pulls off and rolls over onto his back and I think that's the first time that it really occurs to him just how turned on he is, because he's been so busy focusing on getting Cody off and making Cody feel good and not biting Cody's dick off and how his mouth tastes like Cody and he doesn't have anything to focus anymore and it just hits him all of the sudden that, /wow/ okay, he's really hard.
Ells: Cody's not loose and sleepy like he was after the orgasm before, he feels ramped up, like he's still on edge, and he takes a second to catch his breath and then he's moving, hovering over Josh and then kissing him, hard, and he slides his hands down to Josh's hips and pulls back and his voice is kind of urgent, "Can I?" He kisses him again. "I want...want to do it again." He's already shuffling backwards, but watching Josh's face
Kat: Josh is a bit nervous, but he's mostly excited. He feels like this time will be different. So, he nods. "Yeah. Yes, definitely." Plus, he remembers that even for a first time, Cody was pretty damn awesome with his mouth.
Ells: He keeps moving backwards until he can get at Josh's cock comfortably and there's no prelude, he goes right down but slow, so he can wet Josh up as he goes. It's almost more satisfying doing this, far far more erotic than having something done to him, and there's this...this hungry part of him, the whole REASON they can even be doing this right now because he just wanted it too much, finally, to keep pushing it down and holding it back and ignoring it.
Kat: Josh lets out a moan and tilts his head back onto the bed. His hands are tangled up in the bed sheets, because having something in his hands helps center him a little so he doesn't come too quickly He wants to watch Cody, but just feeling it, closing his eyes and just letting the sensations wash over him sounds like a really good idea at the moment.
Ells: Cody loves that moan, because it's like...it's like rewriting something, writing over the part of him where he's supposed to be ashamed and starting a new place where he can start to proud of this once he gets the hang of this. He started with just his mouth, couldn't be bothered with anything else, but he pulls up and tongues at the head of Josh's cock for a second while he runs his hand through his spit, slicking it up and tugging a couple of times, all the way up, before he starts to sink back down again.
Kat: Josh is making little noises every time Cody goes down on him. He looks absolutely wrecked, and Cody's just started, and he's so caught up in it that he isn't even a little bit embarrassed about it. He gets out a, "Your mouth is ridiculous, holy shit."
Ells: Cody gets this...it's like something igniting in his chest, and he drags his mouth up Josh's cock, sucking all the way before he pops off, still moving his hand but loose, not wanting Josh to come when he's not sucking it out of him. "Nope," he says hoarsely, mouthing low on Josh's stomach. "You are. Your-" he tightens his hand a little and his throat is tight all of a sudden with something, fear or apprehension or just sheer disbelief that this is A FUCKING PART OF HIS LIFE. "This, /this/ is ridiculous, you're ridiculous." He is making zero sense and he can't make himself say what he wanted to so he just takes Josh into his mouth again, pushing himself probably a little too far but it's just what he needs, right then
Kat: Josh knows he's close, which he thinks is probably ridiculous, but he wasn't lying, Cody's mouth is ridiculous and Cody is saying what Josh thinks is a compliment even though he's not doing much and Josh is just really wound up and so he goes ahead and warns Cody, "Soon. Like, really soon."
Ells: Cody moans around Josh's cock and bobs his head, the obscene version of a nod, and he has to take a second, convince himself to pull back, but if he chokes he'll have to pull all the way off and that's the last thing he wants. He grudgingly backs off a bit and compensates with his hand, working Josh faster and he almost feels like /he's/ the one straining toward something
Kat: Josh comes hard. He doesn't even think to ask Cody if he wants him to pull out or not. He comes and his skin feels just a bit buzzy, like he can actually feel the vibrating everyone else can always see. He moves one of his hands from the sheets and reaches out and kind of flails it in Cody's direction.
Ells: Cody takes the first of it in his mouth but he knows he'll have to swallow it straight down if he's going to keep going and he has this spark of an idea and he pulls back, keeps jerking Josh through it and taking the rest of his come against his mouth and chin, and he gets to watch Josh properly while he still has Josh's come blood-hot in his mouth and he finally swallows, leans down to lick the last of it from the head of Josh's cock, chasing it into the slit
Kat: Josh hisses and the hand that is in his sheets clenches up again because he definitely did not see that coming (no pun intended). But he reaches down and he touches Cody's arm with his hand, because he's not quite sure how to get his mouth to work enough to tell Cody both simultaneously that, hey, it's time to pull off and also that holy shit wow that was wonderful thank you.
Ells: Cody is /panting/ and for a second he just stays where he is, and it takes time to refocus his attention from Josh's cock to JOSH and he almost feels a little ashamed when he finally looks up at him and meets his eyes, swiping his tongue along his bottom lip which is TOTALLY ineffectual, he can't reach everything
Kat: Josh pulls him up because he really just wants to kiss the hell out of him right then.
Ells: Cody lets him pull him up but he doesn't kiss Josh, he kind of averts his eyes, and he's like, "I've got-" and thumbs at his chin
Kat: Josh really, really wants to lean over and lick it off, so he does.
Ells: Cody's breath catches in his throat because he doesn't watch porn but this kind of /feels/ like porn, way more than anything they've gotten up to before, and he kisses Josh open-mouthed and wet and kind of dirty, and this is ridiculous, because these are the kind of feelings you're supposed to have /before/ sex, not after
Kat: Josh just has all the wibblies and in his head he's like "I JUST CAME DO NOT GET ME WORKED UP AGAIN GOOSE"
Ells: Cody's breathing still isn't at 100% capacity and he has to move back a little and he groans, quiet and less urgent, and repeats, "Ridiculous."
Kat: "You're pretty ridiculous, I agree. Now come cuddle me."
Ells: Cody grumbles, "Your cock is ridiculous," grumpily and wow, /now/ that comes out? Now??? He lies down and covers his face with his clean hand and laughs darkly at himself
Kat: Josh kisses him. "It is pretty awesome, isn't it?" and it's hard to tell whether he means it or not. "Yours was brilliant. Good first cock to suck."
Ells: Cody goes, "Shut uuuuuuuup," because he'd almost suspect Colette had /told/ him something, and then he's wondering what Colette is going to even say about all of this. "You can just. Say things."
Kat: "Said it earlier, talking's what I'm good at. Besides, if you didn't know how awesome you were, it'd be a travesty."
Ells: Cody shakes his head, sighing. "Just did what I wanted. Wasn't really worried about being any good."
Kat: Josh considers that for a moment. "Maybe that was why it was so good."
Ells: Cody kind of gives up on it. He lets his mind wander back past back the intensely hot span of blowing-Josh memories to his own orgasm. "You're just like Colette. I should've known."
Kat: “Hm?”
Ells: Cody finally wipes off his one spitslick hand onto the sheets (he needs to wash them anyway). "She didn't want to....stop, the first time, either. I made her."
Kat: "Oh," Josh said. "In my case it might've been faulty information?"
Ells: Cody looks at him questioningly.
Kat: Josh waves. "GSA guys."
Ells: "GSA guys told you to swallow?"
Kat: Josh thought he was talking about not pulling off at the end. "Oh, no, that? No, that was me. It didn't make sense not to swallow."
Ells: "Oh." Cody doesn't really know what to do with that. "I tried to get away from Colette, it just ended up..." he gestures broadly. "Everywhere."
Kat: Josh laughs. "Oh god. I think that probably was a worse outcome."
Ells: Cody laughs a little too, at the memory. "She was so upset. Not because of the mess, but. She wanted to do it /her/ way."
Kat: "She's stubborn as hell." Josh sounds fond and happy
Ells: "She's not the only one."
Kat: “Who else?”
Ells: "I think we all are. This is... We're crazy. This is nuts."
Kat: "The good kind of nuts," Josh agrees. "The kind of nuts that invents the iPhone, not the kind of nuts that lands you in a mental hospital."
Ells: Cody scoffs at the tech reference. "We could've done without the iPhone."
Kat: "We could've, but life would be a lot less fun."
Ells: "My life would be the same. Without the phone. Not...this is different."
Kat: Josh goes serious at that. "I agree. It is different. Definitely more important than a phone."
Ells: Cody takes a deep breath and lets it out. "I'm not freaking out."
Kat: Josh beams. "That's probably the best thing you've said to me all day. Well, maybe tied with you saying I could give you a blowjob, but still."
Ells: "Did you think I was going to say no?"
Kat: Josh shrugged. "It was a possibility."
Ells: Cody shakes his head. "No, it wasn't."
Kat: In his head, Josh is thinking "I'm not going to get over how weird it feels that he actually seems to want me" but he feels like that's jumping the gun a little. "Not a likely one, but definitely a possibility."
Ells: Cody is quiet for a while, mulling over his words and then trying to find a way to actually say it. "I didn't. Want it as much as....other things. But I wanted it."
Kat: "What kind of other things do you want more?"
Ells: "Just did it. Again. And..." He's not really ready to say any of the rest of it out loud.
Kat: Josh nods. "I can see why you like it. You're really, really good at it."
Ells: He wishes Josh would stop saying that. "Compared to..."
Kat: "My hand?"
Ells: Cody laughs, really laughs, head back, loud. "That's what I thought."
Kat: "Shhhh, still counts."
Ells: "I'm just saying. I'm not any good. Colette's a million times better."
Kat: "She's also got a bazillion times more experience. You'll get there."
Ells: "I haven't had two bazillion blowjobs."
Kat: "That's a travesty."
Ells: "I'm sure you two can fix it."
Kat: "I'd be more than happy to help."
Ells: "She's gonna be mad she missed this."
Kat: Josh deflates a little at that, I think. It genuinely worries him. "Is that okay? I mean..." he stops. He does not know what he means. Or, he does, but he doesn't really want to express it.
Ells: Cody looks over at Josh and studies his face, frowning. "She likes watching us, I think. That's all."
Kat: "So she won't mind..."
Ells: "Oh!" Cody shakes his head, quick, like it's ridiculous. "Why would she?"
Kat: Josh shrugs. "I dunno. It just occurred to me and I panicked?"
Ells: Cody's frown deepens. "I would bet...she's been in her room trying to imagine what's happening here." One corner of his mouth starts to tip back up at that. "She's going to make you tell her about it."
Kat: Josh pinks up a little. "Don't think I mind that."
Ells: Cody is kind of thinking he doesn't know how he'd feel about listening to that. Or when Colette makes /him/ talk about it when they're alone, like he knows she will. "She's going to be happy. She's been worried."
Kat: "I know," Josh says quietly. "I'm sure she'll be relieved."
Ells: Cody nods. "She'll expect more now, though."
Kat: “I won’t mind that one, either.”
Ells: Cody just makes a thoughtful noise, not enthused.
Kat: Josh doesn’t want to question it too much. “We’ll work on it.”
Ells: "Yeah."

Ells: can he just lay out like that on the couch and wait for josh to come home??
Kat: Josh would skip in and see Cody there and his mouth would go dry. It's very much a "wow he is beautiful and also mine and also I really want to fuck him right now"
Ells: cody is okay with being his and more than okay with the fucking
Kat: Josh would probably walk over to the couch and he’d climb on and locate himself a bit tenuously, with his legs on either side of Cody’s and lean over and kiss him.  “Have a good afternoon?”
Ells: "The air conditioning is out and I was bored."
Kat: "Is it awful of me to find this really a not bad thing, given the circumstances?"
Ells: "I was kind of betting on it."
Kat: Josh laughs and kisses him again. "It was a very nice surprise."
Ells: Cody grins against his mouth and tries to get Josh not so carefully placed xD he'd much rather just have him all over
Kat: Josh would laugh into the kiss, and move so that he was positioned more the way Cody wanted him.
Ells: Cody probably starts pushing at his clothes. "You're gonna want these off."
Kat: "Yup," Josh agrees, and he gets up on his knees so that he can pull his shirt over his head.
Ells: There's this little moment of being super torn for Cody, because Josh kneeling up like that gives him all kinds of ideas, but he decides to just go with whatever Josh does, since it /was/ a surprise for Josh, after all. Doesn't stop him from going straight to trying to get Josh's pants undone, though xD
Kat: Josh is a-okay with that. He lets Cody work on his button and zipper as he tosses his shirt onto the floor, and when that's done, he gets off of his knees and pulls his pants off before resuming his previous position.
Ells: "That's mostly better."
Kat: "Mostly?"
Ells: Cody hums agreement but doesn't explain anything, pretty much just feeling Josh up contentedly because it's early before everything's going to get all sweaty and skin-sticky so it's still nice to be touching all over
Kat: "What would make it better?" Josh asks. He gets his hands on Cody's chest, drawing circles around his nipples without actually touching them.
Ells: Cody presses his lips into a line and shakes his head. "You decide."
Kat: "Hmmm..." Josh says. He leans over and kisses Cody again, "Are you up for a sensitivity spell? I've been practicing it on myself, and I really want to try it with you."
Ells: Cody's eyebrows go up. "When have you had time to practice that?"
Kat: Josh smiles and says, "That's definitely a secret."
Ells: "But you're good at it? And it's safe?"
Kat: Josh nods seriously. "Absolutely. I would not try it with you if I weren't 100% sure of that."
Ells: Cody is pretty much nothing like RJ on this one. Literally those two questions with an honest-sounding answer from Josh is enough for him. "How...how sensitive?"
Kat: "Probably enough that we could try getting you off with just playing with these," Josh says, rubbing at one of Cody's nipples
Ells: Cody shudders, because no they're not hypersensitive yet but they're still, well....they're still the way they are, but it's more what Josh is saying. "Can that even happen?"
Kat: Josh hums. "I think so, if they're sensitive enough. It can happen with girls, can't it?"
Ells: Cody blinks. "I don't know. Colette can't."
Kat: "Some girls can," Josh told him. "It's not incredibly common, but it can happen. Plus, we already know you CAN come without having your dick touched."
Ells: Cody flushes a little because that's still....well. "But only when you...it takes more than just those." He nods vaguely down at his chest.
Kat: Josh kisses him. "Well, if it's alright with you, we'll try and see where we can get. Maybe I won't let you come at all if you can't do it with just me playing with your nipples."
Ells: Cody's eyes go wide for a second while that sinks in, his breathing actually hitches in and then stops for a second, and then he's exhaling and nodding up at Josh. "Okay."
Kat: Josh smiles. "Okay, then just relax for a second." He leans over and pulls his wand from his pants pocket, since he wants to be absolutely positive that he doesn't get something wrong this time, and wands are best for detail-oriented magic. He mumbles something to himself and runs his hand along Cody's skin, the nerves glowing under Cody's skin as Josh passes his hands over them. After a moment or two, Josh puts his wands down and kisses Cody. "You should be feeling it soon."
Ells: Cody is kind of mega entranced watching the magic, because he does a lot of pretty intricate stuff but never to /bodies/, that's tricky and seems dangerous and really exciting. He's sort of got a big ol' nerdboner for Josh beyond the regular old boner xD He's not really worried about whether he's feeling it yet, because he just wants to kiss the sense out of Josh for being so brilliant.
Kat: Josh kisses him, keeping his hands away from Cody's chest, because he experimented with himself, and it should take two or three minutes before the magic really starts making Cody sensitive, and he wants it to be a bit of a jolt when it starts kicking in, going from no stimulation to more than Cody's used to.
Ells: Cody is more than happy to spend time sucking face, but after a bit he definitely notices that nothing else is happening. He /almost/ speaks up, but then he decides Josh is in charge and knows what he's doing, so he just gets one hand around the back of Josh's neck, his fingers playing in the very edges of his hair, the other just keeping the rest of Josh close, even though he's not worried about him pulling away. It's just kind of comforting.
Kat: Josh keeps things easy for a couple of minutes, just the slide of his mouth against Cody's, before he finally pulls away and brings one hand up to tweak lightly at Cody's nipple.
Ells: Cody actually chokes a little and his hand flies up to catch Josh's wrist, because that was...that was barely anything and it didn't /feel/ like barely anything and at the moment he's not even sure if that's amazing or frightening.
Kat: Josh leans in and kisses him. "Are you okay?" he asks. He brings his hand down to Cody's chest and rests it there, knowing that the area will be sensitive and tingly, but not nearly as much as Cody's nipples would be.
Ells: Cody nods slowly, and the feeling of Josh's hand against his chest is more his speed just then, being seriously, maybe warm up to that a little? "That's insane. I can't believe you can do that."
Kat: Josh draws shapes on Cody's chest, dragging his pads of his fingers lightly across the skin. "Magic," Josh says, grinning broadly.
Ells: "Really-" he breaks off and squirms a little, torn between arching his back so he can press into Josh's fingers and pressing back into the couch. "Really impressive magic. I couldn't do that."
Kat: "It wasn't all that complicated," Josh said, and he shifts downward, positioned so his fingers are brushing against Cody's hips and his mouth is positioned right over one of Cody's nipples, so that a brush of air flows over it every time Josh exhales. "It just took a bit of research and a little practice."
Ells: The hand that Cody had on Josh's neck works further into his hair, not even grabbing, just getting his fingers against Josh's scalp and hoping he'll want to keep his mouth just where it is for a while, or better. "How did you /stand/ it?"
Kat: "Your nipples are naturally more sensitive," Josh explained, kissing the skin just below Cody's nipple before bringing it back to its previous position. "It makes sense that the spell would draw that out. I can lessen it, if you would prefer."
Ells: Cody actually has to think about that one for a second before he shakes his head. "I can handle it."
Kat: Josh smiles widely, and with his tongue, he carefully licks around the nipple, barely pressing his tongue against the skin, but getting it wet. He then blows carefully, watching the skin pebble up.
Ells: HIs fingers do go tight in Josh's hair then, because things are starting to bleed from 'too much’ into something he doesn't really have a label to put on. The rush of air over his skin makes him shiver all over and groan, and he could swear he gets goosebumps all over because apparently sensitivity to temperature is part of all of this too.
Kat: "Good?" Josh asks, breathing the words into Cody's skin.
Ells: "Ridiculous," Cody answers, and he wonders if he's ever going to get past the little tremors going through him every time Josh does....well, anything, or if that's just how this is going to be, him shaking and two seconds from pushing Josh away right up until he comes. "More."
Kat: Josh smiles and kisses the skin below briefly before gently wrapping his lips around Cody's nipple.
Ells: Cody outright whimpers and bites hard on his lip because if he's already making noises he's going to shout the place down before this is over with. "This is entirely unfair."
Kat: Josh moves his mouth off. "Pretty sure that's the way you like it," he says. He moves his mouth to the other side of Cody's chest and sucks the other nipple into his mouth.
Ells: Cody opens his mouth to tell Josh he's rude, or wrong, or that he hates him, but instead he's muttering that he loves him, fingers going slack again when the sensations start to melt into nothing but wet heat. He's frazzled because it's one thing to have sensitive nipples and another entirely to basically feel like you're getting a blowjob, just in a different spot.
Kat: Josh pulls off and licks his fingers, getting them nice and wet, so that when he goes back to working the nipple his mouth is on, he can gently rub the other between his slick fingers. He shifts his weight to make sure that his legs are nowhere near Cody's dick; even though the hypersensitivity spell doesn't reach that far down, he doesn't want to stimulate him there by accident.
Ells: Which is entirely unfair, because Cody was just starting to get ideas about being able to hitch his hips a certain way and now that's ruined. Just like his underwear is going to be ruined if he actually does manage to come from this, which he isn't doubting so heavily anymore now that Josh is working on both nipples. It's entirely different from the times he's gotten off from Josh fucking him, when it's like something coils up too deep in him to touch and then springs. This is really focused, the way it would be if someone was only touching his cock, except NO ONE IS GOING TO TOUCH HIS COCK. He whines and hitches his hips anyway, knowing he's not going to get anything out of it.
Kat: Josh doesn't want to take his mouth off Cody, so instead of telling Cody he isn't going to get anything, he sucks harder. He decides that it's to the point where Cody is adjusting to the sensitivity more, so with his hand, he shifts from just gently rubbing to alternating between rubs and brief, firm tweaks. He doesn't sink into a specific rhythm, rubbing for a while and then abruptly gripping the nub between his fingers and squeezing, going back to rubbing before giving Cody a chance to really recover.
Ells: Squirming outright is kind of Cody's only solace at this point, the only thing making him FEEL somewhere other than where Josh is basically torturing him with a ridiculous kind of focus. He jerks a little, muscles tightening all over every time Josh gets a good squeeze in. It's making his cock jump a little too, trying to flex or fuck or get ANYTHING other than his underwear trapping him. "Ugh," he forces out, frustrated but still holding Josh right where he is.
Kat: Josh takes his mouth off Cody for a second to give him the illusion of reprieve. "Next time, we'll take your underwear off, so there's even less friction," he decides, and he licks his fingers again and goes back to work. His tweaks are getting more frequent and more forceful, tugging and squeezing all at once, sometimes even digging the nail gently into the skin. Josh is working the nub in his mouth even more than before, adding in gentle nips to break up the pattern of suction.
Ells: "/Jesus/ christ." Cody bucks up again, hard, trying to find some leverage but there's too much give to the couch for that to help and no matter how much he contorts himself he can't get anything, not away from Josh and not any closer to Josh either. The warm, wet sensations are starting to get streaked through with the burn of Josh being rougher with him and it's....he can't compare it with anything but fucking, even if it's so far removed, and it's like being pounded just this side of too hard. "Oh my god, I can't."
Kat: Josh pulls off with his mouth, though he keeps his hand going. He rubs his other hand down Cody's side reassuringly. "Yes you can, Cody. You can do this. You can come from just this."
Ells: Cody's shaking his head even as he's pressing it back into the couch, arching, missing Josh's mouth even thought it was driving him completely insane. He wants to explain himself but he can't decide if he wants to say that it's too much or that it's not enough, because they're both true, so instead he just says, "Please," all choked and keening, not even sure if he's asking Josh to stop or give him more, just. Something that he's not getting just then.
Kat: Josh smiles like he understands, and he leans back in and gives Cody his mouth again. He's trying to make everything more. He's giving Cody more pressure and more suction and more unpredictability, trying to make it enough to pull Cody over the edge. Josh wants very badly to watch Cody fall apart, but he also wants to be right there, mouth pulling at Cody's nipple until it happens.
Ells: ‎ Cody finally gives up on keeping all his noises bound up in his chest because there's no room for them in there anymore, and the first touch of Josh's mouth when he puts it back on Cody has him moaning, only stopping to catch breaths. It's just /so much/ and he can feel how close he is, but the longer he feels that way the more he feels like he's just swimming in it, almost drowning in it, and he's just going to get lost there instead of coming. He's pretty sure he'd lose his mind for good. He's not even trying to rub his cock against anything more, his brain has finally accepted that he's got to put all his effort into what he's actually going to get, bowing his back to press his chest up, straining for it, and still it's just this flood of almost almost almost.
Kat: ‎ Josh leans into the movement, and when it looks like Cody's going to get there, he applies a few quick, sharp bursts of pressure.
Ells: ‎ All of Cody's noise cuts off abruptly, complete silence as his teeth clack together and his jaw clenches and the last buck comes, not seeking anymore, just his whole body strung up from the middle when he finally, finally comes, bizarre and overwhelming and like his skin is too tight.
Kat: ‎ Josh pulls off and kisses Cody's cheek, letting him catch his breath and come down. The sensitivity should fade with the orgasm.
Ells: ‎ When he can breathe again, the sound comes rushing out of him again, starting loud and trailing off, like letting the steam off, and when he can relax into the couch again properly he just lets his eyes flutter closed and tries to find all the little pieces of him that have come loose. He leans a little into Josh's lips against his cheek, mindlessly, and sighs.
Kat: ‎ "That was amazing," Josh mumbles into Cody's cheek. "You were amazing."
Ells: ‎ Cody just hums at him at first, doesn't want to make noises, doesn't want to come back, he feels emptied out and exhausted. "I didn't do anything," he says finally, a little raspy.
Kat: ‎ "Yes you did. You just came from just me touching your nipples. That's incredible, Cody."
Ells: ‎ "That was more than touching," Cody mumbles, and he becomes more aware that even though he doesn't think he's running on magic anymore, he's gonna be super tender from all of that attention.
Kat: ‎ Josh holds him, being very careful not to wrap his arms around Cody's chest. "Definitely more than touching."
Ells: ‎ Cody clings a bit, and yeah, maybe he got a little distracted in there because now he /is/ at the point where too much skin touching means sticking with sweat, but he doesn't figure Josh is going anywhere soon. "'s that what you wanted?" he asks, and it's even more mumbly and slurring than before.
Kat: ‎ "It was just what I wanted," Josh tells him. "It was perfect, for me."
Ells: ‎ Cody grins a little, and he finally manages to get his eyes open. "I was trying to give /you/ a surprise."
Kat: ‎ Josh kisses him, this time on the mouth. "You definitely did."
Ells:‎ "I don't think that counted as me surprising you."
Kat: ‎ "Are you sure? I think it should count.
Ells: ‎ "You seemed to know exactly what was going to happen."
Kat: ‎ "I mean, I just had the idea and ran with it. It caught me by surprise just as much as it did you."
Ells: ‎ "I still can't believe that worked. Christ. Magic."
Kat: ‎ Josh grins. "I've been working on that for over a month. I wanted to get all the kinks worked out before I brought it up."
Ells: ‎ Cody snorts a little. "Kinks. Yeah, you worked a few of those out alright."
Kat: ‎ "Whoops. Didn't mean it that way. Did you like it, though?"
Ells: ‎ "After I made up my mind that I was going to come no matter what? Yeah. It was....a lot, though."
Kat: ‎ "A lot in a bad way?" Josh looks a little concerned, because he knew this was pushing it, but he wasn't sure if it was too much or not
Ells: ‎ Cody shakes his head, biting at his lip and clinging a little more to Josh. "Not bad. None of it was bad."
Kat: ‎ That's a huge relief to Josh. "Good. I know it was new."
Ells: ‎ "Girls can do that /without/ magic?"
Kat: ‎ "Some of them, yeah."
Ells: ‎ Cody shakes his head again just at the thought, because god knows if he could do that all the time it'd be happening all the time. "Hey," he says after a minute, "what about you?"
Kat: ‎ Josh kisses him. "Don't worry about it."
Ells: ‎ His brow furrows. Most other times he would be having none of that bullshit AT ALL but he's still a little too gone to be back to the responsibilities worries. "Are you sure?"
Kat: ‎ "Positive," Josh says assuredly. "We're focusing on you right now."
Ells: Cody thinks on that for a bit and then just takes it for what it is, which has taken a hell of a long time. "It's really hot."
Kat:‎ Josh focuses on releasing enough magic to cool the air around them. "I'm pretty sure that meant I should let go of you, but I don't really want to."
Ells:‎ "No," Cody says quickly, sounding almost appalled. "I was just saying."
Kat:‎ Josh laughs and nuzzles into him. "Good. Is this cool enough, or do you want it cooler?"
Ells:‎ "It's fine. Good enough for now at least."
Kat:‎ "Good," Josh says, because he can't actually keep that up indefinitely, so making it way cooler would mean less time he'd be able to keep it that temperature. "We'll need to call someone to fix the A/C."
Ells:‎ "I tried to do it myself. I mean, I fixed a couple banging around or with magic before. I don't know what's wrong with it."
Kat:‎ "I would take a look at it, but I would probably make it worse."

Ellie: So colette comes home and it's been an easy day and she's in a nice mood and Cody pinches her right on the butt when she comes over to hug him and she squeaks and giggles and looks at Josh like 'what did you do to him??'
Kat: Josh holds his hands up like "wasn't me!"
Ellie: Colette smooths her dress down in the back because Cody's hand is definitely still on her butt. "What's got you frisky?" He just shrugs innocently. "Ask Josh."
Kat: It might've slipped out that I liked him for a bit?
Ellie: Her face gets serious for a second and she looks back and forth between them, trying to make sure everything's totally kosher about it. "Wow. That cat was in the bag so long I thought it suffocated."
Kat: We were talking about rimming and it popped up
Ellie: "You were.....I'm not going to ask. At least it's not a secret anymore. And Cody gets to be vain about it now." She bumps her hip against his side and rubs her hand through his hair to show she's joking.
Kat: "He does, definitely."
Ellie: I'm still not sure why it's /my/ butt taking the abuse. I don't have anything to do with this.
Kat: You knew and didn't tell him, of course
Ellie: She gives her most innocent look and pouts. "I didn't /know/. I guessed."
Kat: Josh grins. "As long as it's not my butt."
Ellie: Colette says, "Like you'd mind," and Cody pinches her again and she jumps this time, not expecting it, and scrambles around to Josh. Cody throws back his head and laughs like he hasn't this much fun in a long time
Kat: Josh snuggles with Colette. "I'll protect you!"
Ellie: Colette's all, "My knight in shining armor," just as Cody's like, "You two are always ganging up on me!"
Kat: Josh is just sitting there laughing. "You're the one pinching!"
Ellie: Cody just throws up his hands like a 'do you see what I deal with?' addressed to the universe at large. "It'll come back around, I bet."
Kat: Josh doesn't respond, just snuggles
Ellie: Colette snuggles back and kinda rubs her face all over him. "So I still don't get it. Why the butt-pinching? Shouldn't you be making serious faces at each other?"
Kat: We did the serious stuff already. Cody worked out that me liking him meant... other things as well.
Ellie: Colette doesn't move her face, so she's all muffled. "So why didn't I find you in bed?"
Kat: Josh turns to Cody. "Well?"
Ellie: He shrugs. "Couldn't leave someone out."
Kat: It'd be a pretty awful thing to do
Ellie: Colette says, "I wouldn't have minded," but she's so, so lying. Cody gets up and just walks toward the bedroom and as he's going through the door, he looks over his shoulder and says, "So start talking," to Josh
Kat: Josh gets up and walks into the bedroom before he says anything. "Well, it was five years. I was... we have lots to work with, here."
Ellie: Cody shrugs and lays himself out in the middle of the bed on top of the covers. "Gotta start somewhere." Colette is kind of hovering in the doorway, intrigued
Kat: Josh sits down on the edge of the bed. "The first one, that I used when I was younger, I'd be walking down the hallways at school, and you'd be walking down on the other side, and there was this moment when you... you have this really intense face when you're focusing all your attention on something, and I'd seen it when you were playing, and it was on me. And I went to walk by, but you grabbed my wrist right as I went to pass you, and you'd pull me into an abandoned classroom..." Josh hesitates a bit, and he starts drawing little designs on Cody's leg through his pants, because Josh hasn't ever talked about this stuff and it's making him nervous.
Ellie: Cody grabs his wrist to stop him and then kind of pulls him closer, not really a hard yank but still. "And then...?"
Kat: "You'd lock the door but leave the lights off, and you'd push me back against the wall. And I'd start to ask what was going on, but you'd put your finger up to my mouth, and you'd shush me, and before I could react, you'd move your hands and pin my arms against the wall, and you'd lean in and kiss me, long and rough and demanding until I couldn't breathe..." Josh has no idea how to break this up, whether he's going too quickly or too slowly so he's just putting the words out there.
Ellie: Cody's heart is going a mile a minute. I think he meant for this to be a treat for Josh but this is kinda doing things to him that he didn't anticipate. For a second he's just totally greyed out, like he can't do anything but watch Josh's mouth move and try to absorb what he's saying. He reaches and grabs Josh's other hand and he doesn't even have to try to do the intense face because this is actually intense, and he leans up and just goes at his mouth, no prelude, deep and wet straight off
Kat: Josh's hands are grasped tightly around the covers on the bed at first, like he's new to this and doesn't know what to do with his hands all over again, but then he just melts into it. The tension just leaks out of his body and he starts to relax and reciprocate more, but he's definitely letting Cody take the lead on this one.
Ellie: Cody pushes harder than he usually would, using teeth and pressing up hard into Josh, breathing out through his nose. Finally, he pulls back just far enough to say, "Like that?" Colette has shut the door behind her and she's stripped her dress off because wow body temperature problems
Kat: Josh nods, and it takes him a second for his head to stop spinning. "Yeah, just like that."
Ellie: And then what?
Kat: "And then, you'd kiss across my cheek, and in my ear, you'd whisper, 'Keep your hands right there.' You'd mark up my neck and move your hands down to my chest, lifting my shirt up so it was bunched up under my arms, but I kept my arms completely still, right where you put them."
Ellie: Cody thinks for a second, and then he sits up, flips them around so Josh is against the bed and leans down over him. He's not really a hickey guy but he does start kissing and sucking at his neck, and it's totally cheating that he knows all the best spots because he wouldn't have then, and he pushes Josh's shirt up really slowly, first just his fingertips against the skin and then flattening out his hands to feel as he goes
Kat: Josh is in his happy place. His neck has always been sensitive and this Cody, just like the one in his fantasy, knows exactly what he's doing and hits all the right spots. And he's just completely gone for Cody right now, that he'd be willing to do this for him, and so Josh is trying to play along just as much as Cody is, putting his arms against the bed and not moving them at all, just letting Cody do whatever he wants to him. He's already hard, but he's not even thinking about it right now. "And then," he gasps out, and his voice is already sounding low and wrecked even though they're just getting started, "when you were satisfied that you could do whatever you wanted to me and I wouldn't move a muscle, you'd undo the buttons and unzip the zipper on my jeans, and you'd slowly ease them down around my knees. You'd drag it out, touching me through my boxers, but never enough for it to be satisfying, just enough to get sounds out of me."
Ellie: Cody shudders, because wow the intimate detail here, he never thought about this in-depth when he was younger but Josh clearly knew what he wanted. He groans against Josh's neck and drags himself away to work on Josh's pants, looking up at Josh's face the whole time. When he gets them down he drags one hand up the inside of Josh's thigh and he really wants to drag his underwear down to and go for it but he's trying to be good and do it like Josh wanted, so he just palms at his cock through the fabric, teasing brushes and then true rubs, but never for very long
Kat: Josh is trying to keep his eyes open so he can watch this, because this is what he was jerking off to for MONTHS back in his first year at SAS, but when Cody starts touching him, his eyes slip shut and he makes a low whining noise. And he's trying to catch his breath, but Cody keeps teasing, just the way he's supposed to, and Josh knows it's on HIM to move this forward. So he takes a deep, ragged breath and he opens his eyes, and he says, "And when I started getting desperate, you finally pulled my underwear down. You got down on your knees, and you put your hands on my thighs, pushing me back into the wall and spreading my legs as wide as they would go with my jeans keeping them in place. And then, you finally put your mouth on my dick."
Ellie: Christ, Cody's mouth is watering before he even gets enough presence of mind to actually get Josh's dick out. He can't help himself, he mouths at him a bit through the fabric before he pulls it down and presses his face into the crease of Josh's thigh, pushing at his legs less like he's in control and more like he's desperate. He knows it's not perfect, they're not against the wall, but Josh can still look DOWN at him if he wants, and he can pin him to the mattress just as easily. He hovers over Josh's dick, breathing hot over it, not touching. "Did I tease then too? Or did I give you what you needed? Swallow you whole?"
Kat: "You teased a little, first. You lulled me into a false sense of security, made me think that this was all you were going to give me, and that I would have to get off on just this. Then, you swallowed me whole, left me gasping for breath and it was almost impossible then for me to keep my hands there. You started working my dick, slowly, and whenever it looked like I was going to move, like I couldn't take it anymore, you would stop. You kept me on edge, and you never said it, but we both knew I wasn't allowed to come until you wanted me to."
Ellie: Cody starts pressing kisses to Josh's cock, first just his lips, plush and pouted, and then wet, sucking ones, all along the vein on the underside, just at the sensitive spot right beneath the head, and then he gets his hand around the base and starts to lick, not kitten licks like Colette but these long, hot stripes all the way up leaving trails of spit behind, wetting him up all over. He plays with the head a little, tonguing the slit and savoring the taste, and then he sucks him down, far as he can, and holds there for a second, moans around it because he gets this all the time but he can pretend this is the first time he's gotten this, Josh's dick at the back of his throat threatening to press further, choke him, and it's so fucking good. He pulls back though, and as much as he wants to be filthy, make a mess and do every quick and dirty trick he's ever learned, he goes slow instead, bobbing his head in a lazy rhythm, pausing to suck at the head for all he can get on the upstroke. He glances up every once in a while, trying to gauge Josh's reaction, but mostly he just wants to shut his eyes and just taste, feel.
Kat: Josh is moaning, low and quiet but clear, because he just can't hold it in with the way Cody's going at it. But he's had enough of the teasing and this is the point when fantasy!Cody and Josh have had enough of the teasing. "And then, you finally let loose, and it's fast and sloppy and you're so into it and I'm so close. And my legs are shaking, and I can barely hold myself up at this point, and my hands are bunched in fists, and I let out a small little whimper before the floodgates let loose, and I'm so close that I can't even filter what's coming out of my mouth, and I'm begging, 'Please, Cody, let me come, please,' but you just keep going."
Ellie: Cody grins as best as he can with a full mouth, because this is sweet torture for him too, god, half of him wishes they could stop playing this game and Josh would just fuck his mouth, gag him on it, but at least now he gets to do his worst, can stop teasing and just suck wet and sloppy, fast like it's going out of style, like he's dying for it. Josh begging, even just /talking/ about begging, sends something liquid hot down his spine and he's been so into cramming Josh's dick down his throat that he hasn't noticed that he's soaking the inside of his boxers, leaking like fucking crazy and his pants are so tight it /hurts/ but at least that hard edge of pain keeps him from just getting his hand down there and blowing his load just from blowing Josh. He's hungry for Josh to give it up, wants to suck the come right out of him, but even more he kind of wants for Josh to lose his train of thought, tries every tongue trick and hollows his cheeks and sucks HARD, hoping he'll slip and really beg for it
Kat: Josh DOES slip, because, yeah, he needs to focus enough to narrate, but his brain can only handle so much at once, you know, and right that second Cody is sucking his brain out through his dick. He does start begging, not even bothering to keep it low and quiet and his face is red in all the wrong places. And then, when he knows that he needs to come, like, right that minute he actually can't wait any longer, he picks it back up, but his voice is uneven, and when Cody moves his mouth a certain way, it's more moan than word coming out of his mouth. "You finally pull off, all the way, and you're looking up at me still on your knees right in front of me, and you're smirking and your lips are puffy and slick and bright, bright red, but you're still the one in control. And you say, 'Come on my face,' and I do, because I've been so desperate and you've been teasing me for so long..."
Ellie: Cody is...there is nothing in the world except his dick a hot line in his jeans and the raw ache in his throat and Josh above him, winded and beautiful and needy and he doesn't want to do it at first, wants to make Josh spill right down his throat because he's greedy for it, but the way Josh talks about it...when he pulls off, he licks his lips and his pupils are blown and his voice comes out strained, ruined, "Come on my face." and he knows he's supposed to be commanding but /he/ sounds needy and he can't stop there, "Do it. Josh, do it, I want it, come on me."
Kat: Josh closes his eyes and he leans back, arching into the bed and his neck is nice and long and you can see the fading red marks from Cody sucking at his neck. His hands are balled and his nails are digging into the flesh of his palms, but he doesn't even notice. He comes, completely untouched, on Cody's face, splashing come on his cheek and mouth and chin. And Josh wants to melt into the bed and enjoy the aftershocks, but he isn't done yet. "And then, when I've come, you get up from the ground, and you bring your hands up, and you bring my hands down from the wall and bring them to the button of your pants, and you say, 'Time to return the favor, Josh,' and your voice is raspy and low from having my dick down your throat."
Ellie: When Josh comes it's literally like someone knocked the wind out of Cody, punched him in the gut, because he can /smell/ it, he can watch Josh's dick pulse just for a second before he shuts his eyes and just takes it, licking off whatever lands on his mouth. He doesn't expect Josh to start talking again and his eyes pop open and he's so fucking dazed, Josh just came and Cody's more out of it than he is. He takes a few deep breaths before he scrambles further up the bed and he's already grabbing at Josh's hands but now that Josh has already come he figures he's allowed to break character and even while he's pushing Josh's hands to his crotch he's saying, "I'm not gonna last, christ, just-" and he doesn't even know just /what/, but he needs something anything
Kat: Josh smiles dopily at him, and since Cody's already broken character, he figures he gets a bit of leeway. He kisses him briefly before continuing. "I've just come, so I'm a little clumsy, but I'm so, so eager to make you happy. I fumble a little on the button-" he takes a second on the button, "but the zipper is easy, and I have your pants down as quickly as I can." The pants are around Cody's knees. "You don't even let me take your underwear off before you have my hand on your dick, and even then, even when you look so desperate to get off, you're the one moving my hand where you like it, controlling the pace."
Ellie: Cody moans long and loud in pure /relief/ when his pants come down and he's not trapped anymore but yeah, Josh's fantasy is right, he can't /wait/ and he’s curling Josh's fingers just the way he wants them and oh god leading him like this is bone-melting, it's earth-shattering to imagine this being the real thing, an inexperienced teenage Josh needing to be guided, come-stupid and eager, and Cody's panting, biting hard into his lips. "Can- Can I...?"
Kat: Josh nods. "You can come."
Ellie: Cody kind of drops forward and bites at Josh, where his neck meets his shoulder, because he's going to positively SCREAM otherwise and he squeezes Josh's hand just that bit tighter and lets go, whole body jerking, hips twitching up into their double grip like it's something he can properly fuck, and even when it gets too much he's still holding Josh's hand against him, lifting his mouth away and whimpering at the shocks of overstimulation because he's spent, he's so spent, but it was so /good/ and he doesn't want to let go of it. Finally he lets go and lets himself give out, collapsing a little sideways so he's not fully on top of Josh, and he's just sucking in air, trying to get his breath
Kat: Josh drapes an arm around Cody, and he nuzzles into his neck. "It was always then that I came, right after you did, when you went soft and pliable and let me support your weight for you."
Ellie: Cody gives a full-body twitch, and he wants to laugh at Josh for getting off on some tender sentimental thing like that but he can't, and he finally gets his shit together. "That was...oh my god, just the first one, wasn't it? You're gonna put me through more of this eventually."
Kat: Josh laughs. "If you'd like, yeah." He turns to Colette at that point, I think. "Well, what's the verdict?"
Ellie: Colette is standing there, still wearing her bra and underwear but you can see the sex flush spread out across her chest and she has one cup of her bra pushed down and a hand there, just cupping, and the other one in her panties and she's so slumped against the door like she couldn't possibly hold herself up alone. And she says, "I /hate/ you," and it's earnest because god, the mix of emotions and watching /that/. She's gotten off twice since it started, just letting them ignore her.
Kat: "Want some help?" Josh offers

Ellie: Cody turns so he can see her and gives her a come-here gesture and when she climbs onto the bed he takes her hand and sucks her fingers into his mouth. He looks over at Josh while he does it, too, like the true dickhead he is, and then pulls off and tells Josh to put his fingers in her, and dips his head to the one exposed nipple to suck at and you're going to sleep so yeah yeah one more orgasm for the lady and then everyone sinks into sex collapse

Kat: Jody. Josh is like, "Yo, so I have a question."
Ells: Cody makes a little, "Hm?" noise and raises his eyebrows
Kat: "I know we haven't talked about it because you're dodgy, but I really, really want to know - what do you like? Like, sex-wise. Like, what do you actually want?"
Ells: Cody opens his mouth a little and kind of hovers around a word for a second before he closes it. He's still not very used to the talking about things, he just fine left that way. He shrugs and says, "I...don't know," but his face is so, so dodgy and it's a lielielie and Colette never really talked about anything before they did it and then...then it was Colette doing the talking, which he likes and thinks things are
Kat: Josh frowns at him. "I'm not a magic lie detector, but even I can tell that that's kinda bullshit."
Ells: Cody fidgets. "I don't know why you have to talk about everything. I like...what we do."
Kat: "We have to talk about it because blowjobs and handjobs are awesome, but there are other things, too. I want to know how to make you happy. I always get the feeling that you know something else that will make you happy but don't know how to say it, and so... I dunno, somehow it's gotten in my head that if we can just /talk/ about it, we won't have play 'Where is it okay for Josh to put his mouth and dick?' guessing games."
Ells: Cody says, "And hands," on instinct, because those are his fave
Kat: "And hands," Josh says. He realized afterwards that he omitted hands, but he didn't feel like adding it. "Anyway, since things are a bit precarious, the easiest way for me to know what you want without any mishaps is for you to tell me."
Ells: Cody frowns. "I'm not a bomb, Josh. It's not like you're going to touch the wrong spot and this whole thing.... I don't have an off switch. Not a...not a permanent one."
Kat: "But I also don't want to do something you don't like, even if it doesn't cause something big and dramatic."
Ells: Cody sits silently for a minute. "What are you afraid I won't like?"
Kat: Josh gets a little bit shifty. "Well, honestly, I was mostly wondering your stance on the possibility of" he gets a bit quieter "me fucking you?" His face is bright red and he's clearly embarrassed to be asking, but he really does want it kind of a lot and he figures it had to come up eventually anyway.
Ells: Cody swallows, hard, and looks resolutely AWAY from Josh. He tries to keep his voice casual, but his voice is never entirely casual so it just sounds off. "Oh. Okay."
Kat: Josh wants to backpedal, but he doesn't. He keeps his hands as still as he can and he just kind of sits there waiting, because "Oh. Okay" is not really an answer and he actually wants one this time.
Ells: Cody is expecting, like, a reaction, and the silence is weird, and he looks back at Josh for just a second, realizes he's /waiting/. "We can. Um. Do that."
Kat: Josh saves his excitement for a moment or two. "So that is something you want?"
Ells: Cody balls and unballs his hands, looking down at them and biting his lip. He nods slowly.
Kat: Josh lights up. "Yeah, okay. Good. That's awesome, actually."
Ells: Cody was kind of not expecting that at all. Like, I can't imagine what he was thinking when Josh first asked, because he was not expecting Josh to enthusiastically want that? "Oh. You want...to do that to me?" His brain is like /you mean WITH me/ but he's not backtracking, he made a sentence
Kat: Josh makes that correction on his own. "I'd love to do that with you."
Ells: "Oh."
Kat: "We both want it, and now I know that. So, progress!" He looks really pleased
Ells: Cody is both embarrassed and...just, extremely squirmy in the stomach. He feels like he's swallowing down a lot of things he wants to say. "Yeah, I guess."
Kat: "Hey," Josh says. "No, that's a good thing."
Ells: He says, "I know," but it doesn't /sound/ like he does. "I'm...glad. That you want to."
Kat: Josh smiles. "Dude, I've kinda wanted that for a long time."
Ells: Cody properly looks at Josh, and he looks a little hopeful and still really nervous. "I....me too. Especially lately. Colette, um..." He trails off.
Kat: "Like what she did the other day at lunch?" Josh asks, because he doesn't want to force Cody into saying it
Ells: Cody shifts awkwardly at the memory. "Yeah. But. More than that."
Kat: “Wait, really?" Josh is curious now.
Ells: Cody nods. "She, um. With. With her fingers." He holds up his hand with his index and middle fingers up and kind of wiggles them awkwardly.
Kat: Josh giggles. "Oh, wow. That's... um."
Ells: Cody drops his hand immediately and his face falls. "Oh."
Kat: “Oh? I was going to say that's really, really ridiculously hot?"
Ells: Cody just blinks at him for a second and lets that seep in. "/Oh/. I thought..." He waves it off.
Kat: “You thought?"
Ells: "You laughed."
Kat: "I was surprised."
Ells: Cody can see how that would make sense. "I was too, the first time she tried it."
Kat: "I can imagine."
Ells: "You...asked what I like. I like that."
Kat: Josh smiles. "Then we should do that."
Ells: Cody gives him a spooked kind of look. He's been with Colette a really long time and letting her do that was still a process. He doesn't wanna just be like NO, you have to earn that, because that's not even really how he thinks of it, but he also doesn't wanna be like 'yeah sure, go right ahead any time you want' so he just kind of sucks his bottom lip into his mouth and shrugs.
Kat: "No rush," Josh says quickly. "Like, really, no rush."
Ells: Cody's thinking...about what Josh asked about, but he always feels really, really vulnerable with Colette's fingers in him and that's /Colette/ who is literally the safest person the planet for him, and he's upset that one kind of comes with the other. "I really want...what you asked about. But it's." It doesn't even make sense in his own head, so he doesn't know how to explain. "You won't /fit/ unless...and it's just really. Ugh." He facepalms. "I don't know."
Kat: "Colette can open you up. Or we can wait until you're cool with it."
Ells: I don't think that had even occurred to Cody because he was so wrapped up in the 'there's always a roadblock' frustration. His face slowly goes from considering to almost awed. "She'd...oh, she'd like that. That's okay with you?"
Kat: "That's totally okay with me." Josh smiles.
Cody says, "Okay," but it's the first one that sounds happy, certain. "Yes. We'll. That's what we'll do."
Kat: Josh is like beaming. He's so, so happy. "Okay."
Ells: Cody smiles at him for a second and then tilts his head. "Is that all you wanted to know about?"
Kat: "I mean, that was the main thing. Is there anything else you want to talk about? Like, I'd like a lot of things. I want you to fuck me, too."
Ells: That catches Cody a little offguard because that's something Colette /doesn't/ really talk about, but he's had passing thoughts about it. "We can do that , too. I kind of know what I'm doing there. A little, at least."
Kat: "I'd like that a lot." Josh beams.
Ells: Cody visibly relaxes. He feels like he just navigated a mental obstacle course. "So we're good?"
Kat: "Absolutely. We're definitely good."
Ells: "Good. Who's going to tell Colette?" He actually grins.
Kat: “We can together?"
Ells: "She'd try to jump us, right off."
Kat: "I don't mind."
Ells: "I'm starting to think you don't mind anything."
Kat: "That's not true! There are some things I mind. Just most of the sex things I don't mind one single little bit."
Ells: "So, if there /was/ something you minded..."
Kat: "I'd tell you, definitely. That's what you gotta do."
Ells: Cody nods and licks his lips, just stalling for a second. "But I could ask you. Like you asked me."
Kat: "Ask me if there was something I didn't like or something I did?"
Ells: Neither of those options sound exactly right to Cody. "If you'd want to try something."
Kat: "Oh," Josh says. "I mean, that was kind of what this was. It was about making sure you were cool with it, but also it was me wanting it and finally working myself up to asking."
Ells: Cody nods. "I've been thinking about something."
Kat: "Really?" Josh asks, and he's smiling. "What's that?"
Ells: Cody's fingers drift up around his mouth and he rests his thumb there for a second. "You like it. When I go down on you?"
Kat: "I like it a lot."
Ells: Cody has no idea of how to express himself. "What if you just...." He goes to use his hands and there's not even a way to mime it, either. "Did...whatever you wanted. With my mouth. Just. Uh."
Kat: Josh looks at him, and his face is just... he's kind of in awe of Cody, a little bit. "I'd... wow. That's... yes."
Ells: Cody's face stays tentative, questioning, but his eyes go bright. "You wouldn't mind?"
Kat: "Are you kidding?" Josh sounds incredulous. "That sounds amazing."
Ells: Cody goes back to fiddling with his bottom lip with his thumb, half just to pull down the corner of his mouth so he doesn't beam at Josh. "Yeah. Okay."
Kat: "Hey, you're allowed to be happy. I'm like... ecstatic."
Ells: Cody moves his hand so it's just his knuckle pressing against the middle of his mouth and he smiles, broad, mouth open a little, at Josh.
Kat: Josh leans him and gives him the biggest hug. "You amaze me."
Ells: Cody laughs. "You're easily impressed."
Kat: “Lies. Blatant lies."
Ells: "I wouldn't waste any words on lying."
Kat: "Fine. Then you're just misinformed."
Ells: "Yeah, by /you/." Cody kisses him, not much more than a smack. He's happy.
Kat: Josh sticks his tongue out. "I just said I'm not! There, you've been informed."
Ells: Cody wrinkles his nose up at Josh's tongue. "Yeah, well what if /you're/ lying?"
Kat: "I am a terrible liar, you know? My face just does things, regardless of what I say."
Ells: Cody concedes, nodding. "That's true." He puts his hand up against Josh's face, traces down from temple to chin. "You have no control over it at all, do you?"
Kat: "Some, but not a lot," Josh admits. His cheeks are pink.
Ells: Cody's smile is /just/ this side of a smirk. "It's fun to watch."
Kat: "Yeah, yeah, Mr. Stoic." Josh looks really happy, though he's trying to pout.
Ells: Cody...there's no other word for it, he basically makes sturgeon face xD "That sounds like a philosophy thing I've ignored a lot. If it's about my face...shut up."
Kat: "I'm saying how wonderfully expressive you are," Josh teases.
Ells: Cody rolls his eyes and shoves a little at Josh's shoulder. "Like I said. Shut up."
Kat: Josh laughs and snuggles into Cody's side and he so almost says, "I love you" out of instinct because that's totes what he'd say to Seth (although he wouldn't be talking about fucking Seth's mouth with anyone)
Ells: Cody makes this pleased little him when Josh snuggles up to him, and he's thinking that it's really weird that he's this happy because there's only ever been one thing, one person who makes him this happy. He is not sure how to feel about that, but he is just fine to enjoy being happy at the moment.
Ells: I have all these suspicions that there are times when Josh is talking, focused on Colette or the computer or tv screen or something, and Cody just /looks/ at him, just for a second, and I can...it's like I can see his face in my head, the slow transition from, "Yeah...yeah, maybe," to this place that isn't even...there isn't a maybe. There's lots of uncertain things about the whole thing, but he doesn't have to think maybe when he looks at josh anymore. It's like. Eventually he feels just as safe with josh as he does with Colette, but whereas his primary feelings for Colette are these safe, soft, warm, slow-moving things, with Josh it's like...it's bright and pleasantly spiky

Kat: Josh just shared a mental image of him in a threesome with Cody and RJ with him inside Cody and RJ in him
Ells: Feasibly he could fuck and get fucked the same time, though. Cody's just not...I mean it's Cody. It's not that it'd be bad, it just wouldn't be RJ. Colette would be 100% down with providing either orifice for the event, though xD
Kat: Yeah. Josh'd like that a lot. He agrees, though, it definitely wouldn't be RJ
Ells: Actually, it'd probably go better if Josh fucked Cody and Colette had something she could use on Josh and then i was like 'wait what' and then I didn't care anymore because ok
Kat: So how would this start?
Ells: I have no idea. Like how would that even come up??
Kat: I have no idea. Josh wouldn't bring it up, since I don't know if he even thinks of it as something he could have
Ells: I can imagine Colette saying something about not having anything to /do/ when Josh is fucking Cody, eventually getting herself off to watching gets old
Kat: Josh would frown. "There's gotta be something we could do about that."
Ells: What if it actually starts with Josh fucking Cody fucking Colette and that's what gives Colette the idea?? Like, "Why is Josh the only one never gets fucked in this chain?" Colette complains and Cody says if Josh gets in him from behind that opens up a spot for her to participate, and Colette is her brilliant self and gets an Idea because of it xD Oh wait, no, I skipped a step. They try it out with Cody in the middle and Colette likes it, but it's not really not the best position for her to be able to do anything actively. So she's like, "Why don't we put Josh in the middle?" and Cody is like, "Um..." and Colette's like, "And you on the bottom, silly."
Kat: Josh's eyes widen slightly. "Definitely not opposed to it."
Ells: Colette lights up and she glances at Cody really quickly to make sure he's not making the 'wow why' face, and he's not. "Okay! With...I mean, my fingers, or a toy, or should...should we get one of those /things/?" she gestures at her hips, trying to indicate she means a /harness/, for like a strap-on
Kat: Josh ponders it for a second. "I'm happy with whatever you want to do. Do you want a strap-on?"
Ells: Colette tilts her head and thinks about it (I can actually see her thought process and I'm laughing, omg. "I probably wouldn't be any good with it. I don't exactly have any practice fucking someone."
Kat: "We could just use a vibrator, then."
Ells: She nods and a tiny smile creeps onto her face. "Yeah, we could do that." Cody is literally just looking back and forth between them like 'how did I even get into what i'm a part of. With /these two/'
Kat: Josh is super psyched about this. "You're brilliant, Colette."
Ells: Her smile gets a little wider. "I was just /bored/. This way I have something fun to do."
Kat: Josh laughs, "Pretty sure I'm one of the luckiest people in the world, ending up with a girlfriend who thinks fucking me with a vibrator is fun."
Ells: "There are people who don't think that sounds fun?"
Kat: "Probably. I think it sounds brilliant." He kisses her on the cheek.
Ells: She leans over and kind of passes the kiss on to Cody and she's like, "Cody?" and he's like, "Better you than me. Sounds good."
Kat: Josh beams and hugs them both. "This is going to be awesome."
Ells: Okayyyyy so that's something you plan ahead for, that is not your average Tuesday night, you figure out a day where you're not going to be tired or busy
Kat: So they pick out a day and make sure they're all stocked up on lube and that the vibe has working batteries and all
Ells: Alright so they are all ready and they have the vibe and the lube and Colette is probably kind of giddy and obviously eager the whole day up until it's time xD
Kat: And Josh is bouncing off the walls more than usual. He's very impatient, naturally, when he's excited, so Seth probably has to put up with a fair amount of "Why is it so far awayyyyyyyyyyyyy" ing
Ells: And Cody is pretty much his normal self, because his part in this is pretty familiar, but he is kind of excited to see how it's different when Josh has something else going on
Ells: Well I mean I'd be excited. Would you not be excited? Can you imagine them trying to sit and eat together? Colette would just keep /looking/ at them and then smiling back down at her plate
Kat: Josh would absolutely beam and want to hold both of their hands whenever she did that
Ells: They're all so fucking ridiculous. Like this cute little portrait of domesticity....who will shortly wander to the bedroom to try some new sex configuration they hadn't thought of before xD That's really the best thing about their dynamic. That they're so cute and homey and Colette's the little wife in her dresses and bare feet with her hair back and dinner on the table but she's also the girl that found out her boyfriend was a bottomy bottom and figured she'd not just finger him while she sucked him off, but she'd acquire him a cock to ride that's attached to a lovely boyfriend. And now that she knows Josh is on board for it too, she's all aglow and ready to see what happens when she fucks him when he's already balls-deep in Cody
Kat: Anyway, so it comes time and Josh has been out of his skin ever since they all got home
Ells: And god knows Cody is always tuned into everyone else and it's making him more uneasy than anything. He's aware that the only way to do anything about it is to get it started, and kissing Josh is a good start to that, he thinks
Kat: Josh agrees. He likes kissing and there's excitement and happiness bubbling up inside him, since this is actually happening, but the kissing helps get rid of some of the excess energy.
Ells: I'm thinking that putting Josh in the middle is serious business for Colette and that at some time earlier, she probably got with Cody alone and was like, "Look, we're gonna focus on Josh, okay?" and she wants desperately for them to like do everything, starting with undressing him
Kat: Josh keeps trying to help out, reaching out to help them get their clothes off too and trying to make it not just about him, because I don't think he realizes that that's what they're going for, and he doesn't want to be selfish
Ells: Colette would run her hands up and down his arms, trying to soothe him out of all that, kissing wherever she can reach at the time. "Shh. Let us."
Kat: His eyes widen as things click into place, and he relaxes some. "You two spoil me."
Ells: I think C&C have one of those creepy 'they really /are/ the wonder twins' moments, she goes to say, "You deserve it," at the same time that Cody says, "Because we love you," and starts working on his own clothes.
Kat: Josh really doesn't view things the same way as Colette, but he doesn't want to destroy the mood by arguing it, so he keeps his mouth shut and kisses Colette while Cody strips.
Ells: It's good that he knows better than to argue. They all deserve to be a little spoiled sometimes. Colette kisses Josh back, still smoothing her hands around, and then she pulls back to talk to him. "Do you want to open him up? Or do you want him to do it himself while I blow you?" She's been thinking about this a lot, and /she/ has ideas but she wants this to go like Josh wants it. Cody hands fumble a little from being talked about like that while he's right there, I think he likes it
Kat: Josh feels so spoiled for choice that for a second or two, he kind of flounders because he legitimately cannot decide which one is a better option. Finally I think he asks to open Cody up
Ells: Cody gets this private little grin, because he never did like doing it himself, it's a weird angle and it feels more like something he wants to get over with than something that has merit by itself. He finishes getting his clothes off (and all neatly folded because he's still that same weirdo) and lies back on the bed, spreads his legs so there's room between them, and Colette kisses Josh one more time and nudges at his shoulder. "Then get to it." She still has her clothes on, and she goes fishing for the lube and the vibrator and tosses the lube on the bed next to Cody.
Kat: Josh takes his time opening Cody up, using plenty of lube and working him up to three fingers before kissing him on the cheek. "All ready."
Ells: Cody is entirely content, worked up but not wound tight, and he knows he's going to have Josh inside him soon. Colette has nabbed the lube and she's behind and a little to the side of Josh, rubbing at his back. "I can slick you up now, or you can get inside Cody first, but if you do, you have to hold still for a little."
Kat: "You can go ahead and slick me up now," Josh says, because once he's in Cody, he doesn't want to have to stop
Ells: Colette drops a kiss to the small of his back and wets her fingers up with the lube. She's a little nervous about it because she doesn't get to do this a lot anymore. She's careful, and she knows she has little fingers so she tries to be quick but thorough before she pulls back to slick up the vibe.
Kat: Josh is excited because soon there's going to be something up his ass and he's going to be in Cody's ass, and how much better does it get than that? But he stays as still as possible for Colette, making little noises when she's prepping him. He includes Cody as best he can by kissing what he can reach of Cody's back.
Ells: Cody's a little impatient, but he's not going to complain because it's about Josh. Colette rubs her hand along the toy a few times, hoping it'll warm the lube up somewhat, before she rests it against Josh. "Everybody comfortable? And ready?"
Kat: "Yup," Josh says, though he repositions himself so it'll take less time to get in Cody once the vibe's inside him. He doesn't want to leave Cody waiting.
Ells: Cody nods and then realizes Colette maybe can't see that around Josh and says, "Yeah," and the tone of his voice actually /does/ give away a little impatience, but that's okay because Colette says, "Good," and rubs the vibe against Josh's hole a little more firmly before she starts to press it in.
Kat: Josh makes a happy noise when the vibe goes in and he sinks into Cody, giving him a brief period to adjust before going ahead and driving in.
Ells: Cody makes a /very/ loud noise and pushes back against Josh and Colette tries not to giggle and ruin anything because wow, this is happening. She waits for a second to make sure Josh is used to it before she starts to move the vibrator and she hesitates, not sure whether to turn it on
Kat: When he's on the out stroke, Josh takes as much of the vibrator in as he can, and he figures Colette's waiting to get him warmed up to turn it on. Josh feels a little bit overwhelmed, since this is something he's never done before, and the having Cody around him while Colette's fucking him with a vibrator makes it hard for him to focus on just one of the sensations.
Ells: Colette is finding it hard to focus anything but watching the vibe slide in and out of Josh's hole, but she shakes herself out of it and starts to try different angles. "Well?"
Kat: When she starts hitting him in the right place, Josh moans and starts slightly. His rhythm with Cody is interrupted briefly, which doesn't bode well for his ability to focus on keeping things going when Colette really gets going, so he tries to focus predominately on fucking Cody and letting Colette have a lot more control over how deeply he's getting fucked. "Feels amazing," he tells Colette.
Ells: She's so glad Josh can't see her face right now, because the moment he moans she grins so wide, she's so excited. She makes sure she can keep getting that same spot and then she turns the little dial on the bottom of the vibe to switch it on.
Kat: Kat:
Once the vibrator's on, Josh starts getting louder, and his rhythm slows. If he wants this to last, he can't keep up the same pace he was before. He starts kissing Cody's neck to keep his mouth busy and to make sure Cody's getting what he needs, because Cody's been relatively quiet through all of this
Ells: Cody is pretty much focusing intently on feeling Josh inside of him, because he knew going into this that it was going to be kind of overwhelming for Josh, so he's appreciating it as much as he can while he's got it. He gets fucked all the time, it'll happen again soon enough, for now he's just really getting off on listening to Josh and knowing it's not just him or just Colette, it's both of them making him sound like that. He's not gonna go blowing his load anytime soon, but he's enjoying himself. He notices Josh slowing down and even though that is torturously good, he shakes his head. "Don't hold out for me, if that's what you're doing."
Kat: "I'm holding out for me," Josh says, shaking his head even though no one can really see it but Colette. "Don't want this to end so quickly."
Ells: Cody laughs, because /wow Josh/ and starts doing more to move with him instead of just taking it, because if this is going on for a while then he might as well take advantage. Colette is mostly just amused with this whole exchange, and she's perfectly fine with this lasting longer, but she still wants to just absolutely take Josh apart. She uses the fingers of her free hand to rub around the rim of Josh's hole, grinning because she can feel the toy vibrating that way, and then starts experimenting with the settings on the thing to see if she can find one that makes Josh even noisier.
Kat: Oh god. Between the two of them, with Cody moving more with him and Colette messing around with the settings, Josh is floored again. Colette's mission of making him noisier has definitely succeeded, that's for sure. Josh has stopped kissing Cody's neck because that's too much, now. He's having to focus most of his energy on keeping up going into Cody and in just breathing and not getting completely overwhelmed.
Ells: Cody is getting to the point that he's realized it's gonna drive him nuts to keep this up without jerking off, because that's not Josh's responsibility right now, so he goes to taking care of that himself. Colette's starting to go a little glazy-eyed because it's hard to be detached doing something like this. She had meant to be focused on what was going on and talking through it, but it's really kind of overwhelming to be right there. "Having fun?"
Kat: "Mmhm. You need anything else?" Josh is heading towards the point where he is pretty sure that if he tried to word, it'd come out garbled and slightly incoherent, so he's trying not to say too much.
Ells: "I don't need anything." She pushes the vibe as deep as it'll go and holds it there for a little bit, rubbing it around instead of fucking him with it. "Just need to know you feel good."
Kat: While it's in that deep, Josh can't even think to thrust out of Cody on his own, and he doesn't think he could support any more of his own weight, anyway. "Yeah," Josh gasps out, "yeah, I'm good."
Ells: Colette hums happily and pulls it out almost all the way before she goes back to fucking him with it. She peeks around Josh. "Cody?" He groans back at her and nods, hoping she can see it, and purposely tightens up around Josh
Kat: Josh gasps, and his fingers scrabble to grab a hold of the covers. His muscles clench around the vibrator, pulling it deeper. That's the moment when things finally slot completely into place, when it finally makes sense to him that they want to make this all about making him feel good, and it floors him.
Ells: I think Colette can feel the sort of change in tone, that Josh is /getting/ it, and it makes her so happy, just this warm glow all over because they're giving him something he hasn't had before, and that hasn't happened in a while. She's trying to keep up doing whatever has gotten a good reaction, make sure it only gets better and there's no pause in the pleasure.
Kat: Josh is just so madly in love with the two of them in that moment that he feels like he can't hold it all. All he can manage with Cody are shallower thrusts, but he feels slightly less guilty about that (and about the fact that no one's actually taking care of Colette). He just feels really good, both because he's between Cody and Colette, but because he feels really, really loved and special

And then we quit writing

He's long since given up on pretending he's not going to think about Josh when he does this, too. That's something new, something even more strange than damn near giving himself carpal tunnel syndrome. He'd been fourteen once, after all. Javi had passed down dirty magazines, pages curling at the edges, suspiciously stuck together in places, but he hadn't been interested in that. Mostly he'd just liked the way it felt, how the tension would melt right out of him, clear his mind. And then he'd been with Lexie and he was fucking her more often than taking care of it himself. When that was over, he moved on.
He's not exactly a stranger to porn or the occasional memory of someone's fantastic tits or talented mouth, but he's far more likely to close his eyes and get it over with purely on the feeling.

Josh has fucked that all to hell and back with this not fucking thing. There's always the option to just viciously wring the come out of himself and not give his mind time to make it worse, but there's just no fun in that. He can sacrifice a little pride for the satisfaction of thrusting up into his fist, squeezing just this side of painful at the thought of working inch by agonizing inch into Josh's ass from behind, slowly, making him writhe for it. Tangling a fist in that ridiculous hair to tug on, bare that long line of throat so he can leave his mark over and over where it will drive Josh (and Cody, later) crazy. He lets out a belly-deep groan at the image of that mouth, the one he won't fucking keep shut, gaping wet and open, bruised dark red. God, he wants to fuck him; it's bad enough that some other guy just isn't going to cut it. It'd be too twisted to get some other freshman up on his knees and press his face right into the wall, pound into him with eyes shut tight like it's someone else. RJ knows that no one deserves that, but he also doesn't deserve being blue-balled into oblivion waiting for Josh to get brave enough to stick a hand down his pants.

Even that thought is enough to stoke the fire, blaze burning low in RJ's gut. Hand jobs are settling. He can't remember the last time he got only that and didn't go home feeling disappointed. Shit, Josh's hands, though, just the way they feel in all the oh-so-safe places he lets them wander to. The idea of those fingers curling around his cock, sliding and squeezing and working the come right out of him. He's leaking so much at the thought that the lube feels almost wasted, but there's no space in his head for that right now. It feels fucking delicious to run the pads of his fingers around the head, play with his slit and tease out another blurt of precum and rub it in, gasping but not letting up on all the too-sensitive nerve endings. It's only right that this feels like torture as much as pleasure.

After a few minutes, he gives up on anything resembling a train of thought. His brain is firing out images one after another, machine gun speed with sniper's accuracy, hit after dizzying hit. Josh bruising his bare knees against the floor, still making noise with RJ's dick shoved halfway down his throat. That tight little ass in the air, exposed, hole clenching prettily, fucking begging to be licked open and toyed with. The muscles in his thighs bunching and lengthening while he takes himself for the filthiest ride, eyes rolling back every time he settles all the way down on RJ's lap, jizz streaking all over the both of them when Josh comes without a hand on his cock, still fucking himself hard and desperate, half-screaming like he can't stop, needs always more, can't get enough of being spread wide and pounded deep. All of those spastic limbs gone pliant and loose, fucked-out hole taking whatever RJ wants to give him, mewls and quiet moans spilling out even though he's gone soft and can't possibly get it up again, content to be used.

It's a total fucking mess when RJ comes, shuddering, back bowing off the bed. He's never been a slouch but he's not a buckets of come pornstar, either, except that maybe now he is. It's everywhere, spattered so high that it'll dry in his chest hair if he's not careful. He wrings out the last drops until he wants to cry at the feeling, cock oozing one last pitiful dribble before he collapses and smears his hand in the wettest spot, still body-warm against his stomach. He'll shower after this anyway. For now he spares a few moments to imagine Josh's tongue, pink and eager, making broad strokes through the mess, finally quiet and sated. He groans again when his poor abused dick tries to flex at the thought and rolls his eyes at himself.

"This is ridiculous."

High School AU: Start of the nakedness, early RJ's fifth year and Josh's second


Ells: "You could try not getting come all over your underwear. Maybe you should just be naked all the time in my room."
(oh my god so that text sent and my brain was like 'naked all the time in a certain space?? *squinty eyes* that's very D/s)
Kat: (My brain immediately did that, too.  The funny thing is that Josh's totally didn't.)
Kat: "I am so totally up for that," Josh says, "unless there are other people in your room.  Or unless one of us actually has to get work done, because one of us is going to get distracted."  He was originally joking, but he realizes that it sounds like he isn't because now he's actually thinking about the logistics
Ells: (RJ's mind wouldn't go there at all because he just plain doesn't know much about any of that. It was half-joking suggestion of how Josh could not filthy his underwear all the time and half the fact that Josh just lounging around his room naked actually sounds really, stunningly YES)
Kat: (And Josh sees it as not having to wear clothes and do as much laundry or waste time and energy magicking them clean)
Ells: "Speak for yourself. I could absolutely do my Herbology homework with you bare-assed."
Kat: Josh considers it.  "Then just the not when people are in the room bit."
Ells: RJ blinks at him. "So...what? Yeah?"
Kat: "I mean, I think we were both originally joking, but I'd be up for it, yeah."
Ells: "I was joking, but it's really hard not to get serious when you getting naked is involved."
Kat: Josh laughs.  "Then, yeah. No clothes for Josh in RJ's room unless you have other guests, then."
(Josh is getting so good!squirmy at even the idea of this wow)
Ells: (I guess I'm a little more into certain things than I thought?? Because I'm imagining them doing just normal stuff, not fucking around, and RJ just idly touching Josh. Like they're watching television and RJ's just dancing his fingers along the inside of Josh's thigh. Or Josh is laid out on his stomach on the bed trying to read something for class and RJ's cleaning up around the room and every time he passes by the bed he trails his hand along Josh's back)
Kat: (bvserfdsvbrxgfe x.x and every time, even just the little points of contact, the barest brush of RJ's hand against Josh's bare skin makes Josh beam. Josh is so, so into this.)
Ells: RJ doesn't have it in him to actually laugh at that. His mind is turning it over. "I don't have a lot of guests."
Kat: "Then I could potentially be naked almost the entire time we're in your room together."
Ells: RJ shifts around and clears his throat. "Yeah. That's the way it seems."
Kat: "Well, I should probably take my clothes off now, since we've decided, shouldn't I?"
Ells: (I just have all these fluttery feelings about how at first it's probably hard to separate the sexual feelings from the blatant naked touching, but pretty soon it really is just pure physical affection with Josh totally bare to it. Like, the idea of them being able to just be there and have Josh so close to RJ and RJ can just drop a kiss to his shoulder and rub a hand along his side and go right on with what he's doing.)
(I JUST REALIZED)
Kat: (??)
Ells: (uh....is this method gonna be similarly effective in making Josh feel super comfortable with himself and the way RJ feels about him and all? I'm thinking about the kind of thing he does in AU, which is after Josh has already been through some extra trauma about exactly how much people are able to want him. But even without talking, I feel like this a much more gentle, direct way of making sure Josh knows that RJ genuinely loves every little bit of him, because Josh is really physical and it's just constant reassurance, RJ touching him all the time, skin to skin, no hiding, even when it's 100% not about sex)
Kat: (When you said you had a realization, I was trying to think of what realization you had, and I've been copying this part of the conversation into the same doc as the RJ AU snippet we wrote and I independently came to that conclusion.  Like, this is going to be really, really, really good for Josh and his measure of self-worth.  I mean, he wasn't even as bad as he was in AU canon because a) he hadn't had an additional four years where he felt like no one wanted him or was interested in him and b) he never had the ugly Cody didn't want me trauma and just... he's so much younger and more suggestible and RJ, firstly, wanting him naked, and secondly, using it to just sit there and touch him, casually, run his hand down Josh's back or along his thigh in a way that /isn't sexual/, plus all the rumor-spreading that RJ shot down early on in this canon, means that the idea of RJ just wanting Josh for sex is an insecurity Josh puts to rest pretty easily.  So this... yeah, this is actually brilliant for Josh.)
Ells: RJ swallows. "I mean, yeah. Nothing else to do, right? Since we...since we decided."
Kat: Josh nods, and he feels warm all over as he slowly takes his shirt off.
Ells: RJ's mouth feels dry, because it's one thing 'haha yeah let's'-ing about it and another that Josh is just...stripping off. He keeps trying to wet his lips, eyes glued to Josh.
Kat: RJ's eyes on Josh are making him flush, because this somehow feels charged in a way that isn't entirely sexual, and it feels strange but important to Josh.  He folds his shirt up and sets it on the floor before going for his jeans, taking his time on the button and the zipper and pulling them down.  He doesn't take the boxers with them quite yet - he wants to do this one article at a time.
Ells: "Is-" RJ has to swallow again, trying to wet his throat so he doesn't sound so scratchy. "Is this a striptease?"
Josh shakes his head.  "Er, I wasn't meaning it to be.  Did it come off that way?"
Ells: "No." RJ's still just looking at him, gaze gliding back up to his face. "Not at all."
Kat: "Okay," Josh says, and he folds up his pants. His hands are shaking a little when he grips the elastic waistband of his boxers, but he takes a breath and pulls them down and puts them on the pile of his clothes on the ground.  It's weird how vulnerable he feels, because it isn't usually like this when they are having sex, Josh feeling slightly itchy and warm under RJ's attention.  Josh figures it's the fact that this feels decisive, that it's the first time he'll be taking his clothes off and just leaving them off.
Ells: RJ is shaking a little too. He has to take a second to just breathe, looking Josh up and down. And it's nothing he hasn't seen, but normally it's...it's Josh stripping down for sex or waking up from a post-sex nap and not quite ready for clothes or him getting in or out of clothes quickly, post-shower or just changing. This /feels/ entirely different. "C'mere," RJ says a little breathlessly, patting the space on the bed beside him.
Kat: Josh sits down on the bed next to RJ, and even though he's been naked in that bed a zillion times and he knows RJ's covers are much softer than his, they feel rough against his skin.  He feels hypersensitive to everything, from the A/C blowing against the skin on the back of his neck to the way his feet feel against the rug.
Ells: "Hey," RJ says, and he doesn't know why his voice has gone quieter, there's no need to whisper except that people whisper when things are serious, lots of people yell but when things get really serious it goes quiet. He puts his hand out and just touches Josh's hand with it, something that's always out in the open, that he could touch any old time, but it still feels different.
Kat: RJ's hand feels warm and dry, but even just the little contact snaps some of the uncomfortable tension and makes him feel less like there are bugs crawling under his skin.  It still feels like /more/, like RJ just touching his hand is something heavy and profound, but it settles him some.  "Hey," Josh says, his voice just as quiet as RJ's.
Ells: RJ slides his hand up Josh's arm, slow but firm so it doesn't tickle, up past his elbow, tracing along the inside of his upper arm instead of the outside. He swallows again. "I can see all of you."
Kat: Josh's skin tingles as RJ's hand moves up his arm, and he shivers.  He can feel himself getting goose bumps, even though he isn't cold.  "Yeah," he tells RJ, his mouth dry, "it feels like a lot."
Ells: "It is," RJ confirms, and he's relieved to hear that, because he's not really sure what the fuck is going on here, but it's a lot more than just...just a naked body. "But I like it."
Kat: "It's easier when you're touching me," Josh admits, running his hand over RJ's. "When you aren't, it feels itchy and strange."
Ells: "Then I won't stop touching you," RJ says, and it feels like a promise.
Kat: Josh smiles tentatively at RJ, because just those couple of words fill Josh up with warm gooey feelings.  "I'd like that."
Ells: RJ is super tempted to keep running his hand over Josh, but he feels kind of weird and isn't sure what's okay and what's not, which is weird considering the kind of things they've done together. He very carefully slides his hand up over Josh's shoulder to touch his back. He goes to smile back at Josh but he's still not there just yet and he ends up just running his teeth over his bottom lip and giving Josh this wary, inquisitive look.
Kat: Josh leans into the touch, partly to tell RJ that this is okay, that Josh likes this, and partly because... well, he likes this. It's comforting, even more than physical contact and affection usually are for Josh.  He feels like he's putting even more of the parts that make him insecure right out there in front of RJ, making himself even more vulnerable and open than he usually feels, and the contact feels like love and acceptance.  Josh smiles at RJ, stronger this time, and says, "Go ahead.  It's all yours to touch."
Ells: That makes RJ's breath catch a little and he presses his lips to the spot where Josh's neck becomes his shoulder. "Wow," he says quietly against Josh's skin. He lets his hand skim down Josh's back and then around to his side, these places he's touched a million times, but it feels different. It feels like the first time he got to see and touch Josh, it /means/ something like that did. "I might've been wrong about being able to pay attention to anything else."
Kat: Josh would normally laugh at that, but in the moment, it doesn't feel right.  His cheeks pink up and he leans into RJ.  He can feel every point of contact with RJ acutely, like his body doesn't know how to do anything but focus on the drag of RJ's skin against his.  "I know what you mean."
Ells: "I think I can deal with that."
Kat: "Yeah?" Josh asks, looking happy and hopeful.  He thinks of himself as not very much, and he knows being naked like this is going to be hard, definitely, at first.  The first few moments of it were scary and uncertain and uncomfortable, having RJ just look at him with nowhere to hide.   But he thinks if it can make him feel like more, like he does with RJ touching him this way, almost reverently, Josh feels like it's worth it
Ells: "If you can," RJ says, pulling back enough to look Josh in the eye again, his hand stroking over the spot on Josh's side where it's settled for now.
Kat: Josh only has to think about it for a second or two.  "Yeah," he says firmly, "I can do this.  I want to do this."
Ells: RJ finally smiles at him, because now that they've both been serious about wanting to do this, it doesn't feel so shaky and in-between. "Then yeah."
Kat: "Yeah," Josh says, and he leans his head on RJ's shoulder. "Wow."
Ells: RJ properly wraps his arm around Josh and pulls his more against him, letting his hand rest against Josh's stomach. He wants to say something, that he thinks something just /happened/, but he can't find any words that don't sound stupid.
Kat: RJ's arm around Josh like this, his large hands and thick fingers pressed against Josh's stomach, just /fits/, and Josh can't help but think that this feels good and right.  "You remember back when we started out, and we weren't even sure we could work?"
Ells: RJ laughs, because yeah, he remembers that and that was mostly /his/ worry. "We didn't know what we were getting into.
Kat: Josh grins.  "We had absolutely no idea."
Ells: "I definitely didn't see this coming. I didn't see this coming /ten minutes ago/."
Kat: "We were talking about /women's underwear/," Josh says, shaking his head.  "I have no idea how we got here."
Ells: "I'm definitely not throwing those panties out now."
Kat: Josh grins. "No, I wouldn't either. Noticing them gave us this."
Ells: "Something tells me that's going to be an even bigger deal than it feels like right now."
Kat: Josh agrees.  "It's weird, because right now it feels like a very, very big deal.  It's actually a lot intense, at least for me. But I wouldn't be surprised if you were right."
Ells: "I'm a little freaked out by the fact that I'm not, like... all over you right now."
Kat: "It's a little weird for me, too," Josh admits.  "The fact that we aren't actually doing anything means that there isn't anything else for you to focus on. Just me, like this."
Ells: "That's plenty to focus on," RJ says, scritching his fingers against Josh's belly. "Just...in a different way than usual."
Kat: "You can see all the places I'm soft, and I'm not sure how I feel about it."
Ells: RJ hums. "Those are all my favorite places."
Kat: Josh flushes again. "They are?"
Ells: "Yeah," RJ says absently, smiling at the way Josh's skin feels under his fingers. It doesn't even occur to him that Josh might be asking him to explain /why/.
Kat: "Those parts scare me most," Josh admits, "so that doesn't really make sense to me."
Ells: "But you show them to me even though you're scared," RJ says. "/That's/ my favorite part."
Kat: "Oh," Josh says, slowly.  "I never thought of it that way."
Ells: "I mean," RJ says, drawing himself out of his little daze, "I could care less about who sees my body. But....I'm still showing you stuff that scares me, too."
Kat: Josh smiles.  "Like what?" he asks, because sometimes he can tell, and it makes him so ridiculously fond and awestruck.  Still, he wants to hear what RJ says
Ells: "I don't know," RJ says by reflex, but it feels wrong when Josh is completely bared to him. "You get more of me than anyone else ever has. I don't think anybody else ever wanted this much."
Kat: "I don't know how they couldn't want this much of you," Josh says earnestly.  "I don't think I've ever been happier, honestly."
Ells: "I don't think I would've even given someone the chance to know there was any more of me to want."
Kat: "How could they not notice, though?" Josh asks.  "I thought it was obvious from the start."
Ells: "It's not hard to keep someone distracted."
Kat: Josh hugs him.  "I'm glad you let me in."
Ells: (I just realized something he'd never say, but RJ doesn't even think of it as he let Josh in. He lets more of /himself/ out. That's just the way his thought process goes, he's an outgoing guy and he directs a lot of himself outward, he's a flirt, he's friendly, he starts conversations, he goes out of his way. But that's just part of him. He gets to direct the rest of it out instead of in when he's with Josh.)
Ells: "You didn't give me much choice," RJ says, and his tone is light and joking, but he pretty much means it.
Kat: "I'm not good at casual conversations, even with friends," Josh says, "as I'm sure you noticed."
Ells: "You're not good at casual anything," RJ says. "But this isn't....we're not casual."
Kat: "I don't think there's much about this," Josh waves his hand downward, "that's casual.  At all."
Ells: "I'm kind of scared of that too," RJ admits.
Kat: "Of this not being casual?"
Ells: "I should be used to it by now, yeah?"
Kat: "Nah," Josh says, "I mean, that'd be ideal, but there's nothing wrong with being scared about it.  There are different levels of not casual, and this is a new one for us."
Ells: "It just feels like every time I think I've learned how to be the way we are, it gets away from me again."
Kat: "Yeah," Josh agrees, "it feels that way to me, too.  I kind of like that, though, even though it's scary."

Ells: I feel like my heart is yelling. Normally it's my hormones or just....me. But my /emotions/ are yelling right now, holy god.
Kat: Mine are too oh my god I think this 'verse is even more perfect. Like, at first I was a little upset because there was no C&C, and I couldn't find a way to make it work, but like... Josh doesn't need C&C. Josh is so happy with RJ and the three years where RJ is at school are harder, because RJ isn't right there, but... oh god, this even makes them being away easier, Ells. Because if RJ has his own little room of the apartment he shares with his roomies, then Josh can be naked in there and it's a routine and it reminds Josh constantly that nothing has changed and that RJ still wants him the exact same way, even though they don't go to school anymore, and it just melts the stress levels for Josh and eats away at his insecurities
Ells: can I just point out that this is what I meant about pv? How any little thing changing or happening can shift EVERYTHING? I mean, doing the high school shift was HUGE. But look at this. It resulted from me thinking about the drawer with the panties again. Elsewhere, another 'verse, that's a throwaway joke. Haha, we tried something we didn't like, I've seen RJ in blue panties. And here, it could've been just another dumb offsides moment that never amounts to anything. And instead....we totally by accident fell into something beautiful and perfect for both of them that's going to actually make things easier on them and the affection between them so blatant. PV is magic.
Kat: I love us and PV so goddamn much.
Ells: also, yes, RJ has his own room. It's small-ish, but, y'know, they are both accustomed to dorm life and Josh still has a roommate for two of the years, so even a small-ish room alone is good. Also I have the most amusing image of it being, like, RJ's sophomore year and he and Josh are in his little room and someone knocks and RJ holds a finger up at Josh and probably does some kind of peephole spell to see who it is and he's like, "It's Liz. Do you want to get dressed?"
Kat: Josh would consider it for a moment. "Would she be weird about it if I weren't? I can just sit in your bed and cover up with blankets, maybe."
Ells: "I don't think she'll be here long," RJ says. "And she definitely won't be weird."
Kat: "Then, yeah, I'll just keep them off, if you don't mind," Josh says. He likes Liz, and he's cool with it, since RJ has reassured him that Liz won't be weird about it.
Ells: Y'know, it's interesting. In a lot of situations, when one person is clothed and the other is naked, if they're at odds in some way, or being compared, it usually is played as the naked person being more vulnerable, lesser. But thinking about Josh being in the same room with Liz with RJ there, Josh stark naked and Liz fully dressed... it's entirely the opposite way around. She's walking into this little world that belongs to RJosh and she can see how comfortable they both are and how if she took off her clothes and hung around, or even if she did it right now, it would be strange and out of place. She's /something/ to RJ, definitely, but there in all her clothes that she couldn't take off if she wanted to, she's entirely more vulnerable and lesser compared to what Josh has with RJ
Kat: x.x This Josh trusts RJ so much. Like, RJ says Liz is cool with it, and Josh isn't even the slightest bit embarrassed or anything when she comes in. In any other verse, no matter how many times RJ reassured Josh, he would still be fidgety and uncomfortable and want to at least put boxers on
Ells: I feel kind of sad now because if they have kids one day there's really no safe place to have some extended naked time once in a while. Parents' bedroom is fair game at all times for little ones xD
Kat: Dude, Josh has an absolute shit ton of magic. If he wants the kids out of the room at night for naked time, he can rig things up so that they can't get in, but they can let him know if they really need him. Also, Jesseth wouldn’t mind babysitting sometimes

Ells: you know we keep saying high school high school high school and I've been aware the whole time that they get together when Josh is fourteen but it only just occurred to me THEY LEGIT ARE HIGH SCHOOL SWEETHEARTS. That's the thing they get to tell people about their history. That they've been together pretty much from day one
Kat: JUST LIKE JOSH'S MOM AND DAD EVERFWE I have feels about this
Ells: I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT
Kat: How did that actually not occur to either of us?
Ells: I have no idea but !!! I'm only just now taking in the implications?? Josh will have been a fixed point in the Sifuentes family from so early on that I think it'd be really hard for RJ's dad to see RJosh as a negative negative thing. Josh will have been interacting with all the siblings, he'll be the first one RJ tells when Mari meets Chris for the first time and calls him in hysterical tears from the bathroom at an art show. RJ knows Josh's dad. They know their way around each other intimately, so living together, when it happens, is natural and doesn't even really feel like a change. I just. !!!!!
Kat: bsefdw x.x Josh's dad trusts RJ with Josh and respects him, because he knows Josh wasn't really entirely happy before. Josh's dad knows that Josh had a lot going on in his head that he wasn't telling his dad about that was making him unhappy, but his dad couldn't do much about it, you know? And when RJ started coming around, Josh just seemed so much more settled into his skin and happy and grounded
Ells: and I cry and my tears are me eating my words about 'best of all possible universes' because I think I love this more than anything ever ;_; legit tearing up
Kat: I just had the softest, fluffiest image of Josh being in his fifth year, and he has just this HUGE project coming up for one of his classes, and so he's a little on the tired side, and he skips over to RJ's and it takes more out of him than it usually would. And he gets to RJ's and he takes his clothes off, and RJ is sitting on his bed, so Josh goes over and kind of curls up next to RJ, and RJ just kind of casually runs his hands along Josh's back and plays with Josh's hair until Josh starts dozing off next to him
Kat: Also I went back and was rereading over the list, and I was thinking about the buttplug thing, and I realized that the first time Josh wears it, he isn't going to want to wear it out in public, just to make sure everything goes well and to try it out in a safe setting. And so chances are, he'll be wearing it in RJ's room, and he'll be walking around without his clothes on, so RJ will be able to see it there inside Josh

Ells: it's occurring to me that though magic can be useful for certain things when it comes to this kind of stuff, it's so much better left out when it comes to the aftercare. Think about the difference between just magicking the come off someone and taking the time to wet a rag and clean them up slowly and carefully to keep from overstimulating them. Or, like, one thing that occurs to me over and over again is... remember when RJ had Josh holding his weight against the wall and after it was all done with RJ kind of panicked and went rubbing at his arm? I think about that being an RJ reaction post-bondage, especially if Josh's hands and arms were up off the bed even a little, RJ letting him go and kneading at his hands and arms to make sure the blood is all flowing right. It's all so important and magic despite being so individual can be so damn impersonal
Ells: gdi Kat shoves all the D/s feelings at you I didn't ask for these. Well I kinda did when this whole naked thing came up but still
Kat: I agree completely. I don't think magic has a place at /all/ in aftercare, unless it's like... RJ using it to bring a washcloth over so that he doesn't have to stop touching Josh, or something like that.
Kat: not at all sorry because I am a melted pool of feels and thus cannot be held responsible
Ells: I always got just the tiniest bit squidgy when you'd mention Josh's list things leaning kind of D/s and bondage made me feel a little weird up until we wrote it and overall I just didn't feel like it was quite right for them but now that we're here and I can kind of... I can sink into it and feel where it starts to slip into their lives, not some kind of formal thing but naturally in the way they interact with each other, just with increasing awareness of it... it does feel very right to me here.
Kat: It's very, very pronounced in this 'verse, but I think that kind of clicked for me all along, just from the way that Josh felt about RJ. It wasn't until I really sat down to write the list and to think about Josh's RJ fantasies that I quite realized the extent of it, but just the way that Josh seems to rely so desperately on RJ's attention sometimes and the way he's so susceptible to strong reactions to things that RJ says, even when they barely knew each other, and the way that even more vanilla things in the bedroom always felt just plain /more/ with RJ... as soon as I started thinking about it, it started to make more sense.

Kat: No sweat. I was going back and rereading and stewing in naked!Josh
Ells: Getting any feels/ideas off it?
Kat: Well, I'm getting a boatload of feels xD But reading it after writing all this future stuff was making me think
Ells: ??
Kat: I could pinpoint exactly the ways it is good for Josh. It makes Josh more comfortable in his own skin. It constantly affirms RJ's feelings for him. There's no clothing barrier, so it isn't hard for RJ to just reach over and reassure him or comfort him through skin on skin contact, because Josh is all right there. When Josh is really stressed out, it's a way for him to calm down and refocus and center himself and regain perspective. It becomes so habitual and familiar that when RJ's away at college, being naked in RJ's room reaffirms what they have and how they both feel and, for Josh, that RJ loves him and still wants him and still cares and that that isn't going to change, regardless of whether RJ is sleeping with someone else or not. I helps Josh feel like he's important and like he's worth something to RJ and to himself, because he is comfortable with himself with one of his most pronounced insecurities laid out for RJ to see. I know exactly why it's good for Josh. But I was thinking about things from RJ's side of things, and at first, I couldn't really come up with a lot, because I've been so heavily focused on the Josh side of things. And then I kind of jumped a bit to the future, and I realized just how much it must mean to RJ when he's been jumping from hotel room to hotel room and he's constantly busing or flying across the country and he's never in one place and the cities just kind of blur by and he wakes up some mornings, I'm sure, not even knowing where he is... it's nice to have a place that is home and that is comfort and that is familiar. And, yeah, that could mean the apartment, but it also could mean Josh skipping in when he's in Seattle and saying, "Come home," and coming back and just falling into things, giving RJ that firm trust and that openness and that easy access and reminding him that not everything is nine innings and a plane flight and another hotel, but that there is his own home and Josh without barriers, loving him and needing him and just being happy cuddling or kissing or letting RJ just touch him without any sex at all, if that is what RJ wants and if that is what reminds him of home and of his connection to Josh.
Ells: I honest to God think there are times when... when he knows going home isn't a good idea, that some thing or another means he needs to stay where he is for the night just in case. And at times like those I think it's actually just as important, because no it's not his actual place of residence, he can't sleep in a bed that he owns, he can't open his own fridge and use the chocolate syrup he bought a while back to make himself chocolate milk. He can't get that perfect couch-to-tv angle like in his favorite spot where there's no glare and the sound is perfect. But if Josh can come to him for a while.... hell, that's sort of home in itself. It's not everything, and he still sometimes aches for their bed or the one counter they always end up kissing against if they're both in the kitchen. But if he can still reach out and have all of Josh... yeah. That's pretty damn close to home. In case you couldn't tell, RJ is... mad, mad in love with his Josh
Kat: Josh is mad, mad in love with his RJ
Ells: I just... ugh, Kat
Ells: So. Josh, mister research madness... does he ever actually look into what they're doing? Like... because I feel like if something like that slipped into my life, I'd be curious if it just... happens with other people
Kat: He does. He looks into it and he works out that it's a D/s thing and he feels a little weird about it for a moment, because the label is a bit jolting, at first, but he gives it a minute and he kind of shrugs and is like, "Okay, if that's what it is, then that's what it is. I just know it works for us."
Kat: Also, I was thinking about Josh moving in with RJ. And the way I was picturing it, RJ got the apartment over the summer and Josh spent the first part of the summer with his dad and then moved in like a month before school started. And so during the first part of the summer, he skips in and he starts leaving stuff in the apartment, little things like a toothbrush and a book he was actually able to finish in one sitting. And over the summer, when Josh came to visit, he just didn't wear clothes in what he considered to be RJ's bedroom, but not long before they moved in, they sat down and had the conversation at the kitchen table and decided that once Josh moves in and they make sure the ward works properly, then it's going to be the whole apartment. So I was picturing Josh when he actually moved in, skipping in with all his stuff, and he stacks up the boxes in the living room because he doesn't quite want to deal with unpacking yet, and then the first thing he does is go over to RJ and kiss him and take his clothes off, and the clothes that he was wearing are the first to go in his dresser
Ells: I'm so so so so so glad that you were thinking about stuff along those lines, because I feel like any new, semi-permanent place feels unfinished until that's set in motion. Like, even when it was just RJ being all moved in at his apartment with his roommates, I pictured him being with Josh out in the main
living area, showing him everything and introducing whichever roomies are actually around, but then when they go to his room, he shuts the door behind and trips the lock that both keeps everyone out and soundproofs the room, which he thought was a good idea because it might be nice to be able to yell for something and be heard once in a while. And he kisses Josh and gets his hands just under Josh's shirt and he doesn't do it /for/ him, without asking, because that's... I think that's an entirely different creature, there. He just pulls away enough to look at Josh all soft and open and echo what Josh had to say about it when it first started. "No clothes for Josh in RJ's room?"
Kat: Josh grins. "No clothes for Josh in RJ's room," he agrees. He eases his shirt over his head and pulls his pants off (he didn't even bother to wear underwear, because he knew it would be coming off quickly)
Ells: And RJ's hands would immediately start re-mapping everything, like somehow it's going to be different in a new place, like he has to familiarize himself all over again. And he kisses Josh, because this is something he gets to keep.
Kat: I think it's interesting that, for Josh at least, it does feel different every single time they do it somewhere new. When they start doing it in RJ's first apartment and when they do it for the first time in their own apartment that they share and when they do it in every single hotel room, it feels fresh and new and important all over again to Josh, because it makes it something that is global and big, something that becomes less and less about the place and more and more about RJosh themselves. Plus, there is the fact that Josh still has to bury into new places and find a home for himself, like he did when he first got to SAS, and for him, I think it starts to become less that he needs to run around and explore and find all the nooks and crannies to feel completely at home in a place (though he still enjoys doing that) and more that needs to have a place established as somewhere he feels completely at ease, and something as simple as having a naked spot does that for him.
Ells: It's uncanny to me how good he gets at doing those two things together - kissing Josh and touching his naked body - without it necessarily linking to sex in his head. It's not to say that he never sees Josh stripping down after he comes in and just goes for it, deliberate and obvious, open wet mouth doing things that clearly spell out what he wants. But he gets remarkably accustomed to it just being...affection. Kissing isn't always about sex, he knew that already, and kissing when Josh is naked isn't either, even if it took a while for his dick to get with that program
Kat: I still think it's interesting that, from the very moment that Josh got naked for the first time with RJ, it didn't feel like a sex thing to him, at all. He wanted to kiss RJ very badly, but it was an instinctual "I want reassurance" kind of thing, and definitely not an "I want sex" kind of thing. I think that that's a place that Josh is in from the very start - for him, in fact, I think it's a bit jarring the first time when being naked like that leads into sex. He doesn't mind at all, but he has the two things very, very separated out in his head.
Ells: I think it's actually really strange and interesting because where sex stops and starts feels kind of blurry to RJ sometimes. Part of sex for him was the unwrapping part, right? He actually liked that part. But most of the time, unless they've been out in public and skipped home because they got riled up and need to be alone, Josh is already naked when he's with RJ. And so it's a very fine distinction to him between the moment when he's, say, sitting up in bed with Josh against his chest, arms around him, hands idle against Josh's stomach... that moment, when he could lean in and press kisses to Josh's skin... and the possible next, when he could drag his mouth up to Josh's neck and slide his hand down, maybe just a bit lower on Josh's stomach or maybe over his hip and to his thigh. And it's an even more crazy intimate thing about all of this because when they're in the heat of things undressing, it's mostly the norm to be at least half hard by the time everyone's clothes are off. There's something stupidly private, even to RJ, about Josh just being relaxed and calm and soft and getting to /watch him get there/ and to know the things he's doing that are causing it
Kat: And RJ would be able to see /exactly/ what works on Josh in a way that he wouldn't before, could watch the way mouthing at Josh's neck got him hard faster than playing with his nipples, for example. He can see the muscles of Josh's body flexing and straining and he can tell what makes Josh tense up and what makes him melty and desperate. He already knew about some of those things, but this way, he gets access to what makes Josh's body tick from the very beginning of the process. He gets to see exactly what takes Josh apart best.
Ells: *holds hands up* we've reached the point when the sex things are also intimacy thing pretty much always. I think we just reached pv maturity
Kat: You know, I think that at some point after Josh realizes that what they're doing is technically classified as something more on the D/s side of things (and he never thinks of it as a rule, funnily enough, but as an /agreement/, because for it to be a rule then breaking it would be punitive and he can't even imagine going back on it in the first place, really, even when it scares him), he goes back through his list and realizes that kind of a lot of the things that he's into are more on the D/s side of things than he realized.
Ells: I also developed a lot of feelings about that sample scenario was giving because the idea of RJ having Josh kind of in the perfect spot where he can mostly relax and put his weight against RJ and the bed while also having so much of his body easily accessible... I very much like the idea of RJ working Josh up and getting him just like that, one hand wandering and the other on Josh's cock, and he never actually gets too intense with his mouth, doesn't leave any marks on Josh's neck, just presses his lips there and draws his tongue over the skin blows air over it, maybe feeds meaningless little bits and pieces of words and phrases into the shell of Josh's ear, half shushing and settling and half encouragement. Just... getting Josh off /just because/. Because he was naked and gorgeous and there and it made RJ want to make him feel good.
Kat: x.x Josh legitimately... you know how when RJosh tried bondage in canon, and it was so shocking that Josh was able to just let go and let RJ do whatever he wanted? I think this is one of those moments where Josh does that, because I was picturing it, and at first he kind of squirms, because it tickles and he wasn't expecting it and it feels intimate and like a lot, but RJ has his hands all over him, bracketing him in, and I feel like Josh actually goes under, a little, just drifting while RJ does whatever he wants, completely unable and unwilling to stop the little whines that come out of his mouth when RJ does something just right. He's not trying to squirm or buck up against RJ, but just letting RJ do exactly what RJ wants to do and just enjoying it for exactly what it is
Ells: There's literally nothing in the world RJ wants more than that. He's almost awed by it, in fact. After Josh comes he stops touching anywhere that might be /over/sensitive but he actually can't bring himself to stop touching Josh, running his hands over him, these warm, grounding strokes that are less about the actual feel and more about Josh knowing he's there, he's still right there, in the gap before Josh comes down and RJ can tell him just how amazing it was. It's...I think RJ loses himself a little during, too. There's so much of Josh to take in, not just the way he feels under his hands and mouth, but the way he /breathes/, the way he can not just hear and see, but /feel/ when his breaths are deeper or more shallow, faster or slower, and the way he looks, just completely on display and open, RJ can see everything, and the noises he makes. It's easy to get lost in Josh. There's a lot there.
Kat: Josh, as he's coming down, would need the contact, and having RJ still warm and surrounding him and just /there/ pressed against him everywhere and making sure to remind Josh of that, is exactly what Josh needs. I don't think he has much experience at this point with actually going under; he's much closer when he's naked (it makes him more honest and less dodgy and he feels warm and tingly whenever RJ so much as brushes up against him intentionally), but I don't think he really knows what it feels like completely until then. If he were in any situation other than this, he would probably be panicking, because this is very, very new and he doesn't know what this means, but he can feel RJ. RJ is right there with him and so he's able to just kind of float for a bit, enjoying feeling fuzzy and loved and warm and sensitive as he comes down. I feel like as soon as he's mostly there, he tilts his head and kisses RJ on the chest as a thanks, because he doesn't know that he can put into words how amazing that was and how grateful he is for it
Ells: I actually....once RJ realizes Josh is back in the land of the functioning, I think before he even gets to saying how he felt about that, he asks Josh, "Was that okay?" because I think he still feels a little insecure at times about some things, because they're not things he's done before and gained confidence in. It's new for both of them.
Kat: Josh nods slowly. He doesn't feel like he can do anything quickly at the moment. His body feels like it's moving through syrup. "It was amazing."
Ells: "Yeah," RJ sighs, partly in relief and partly because /wow/. "It was. You were perfect."
Kat: Josh kisses RJ's chest again, because it's right there and RJ is making him feel glowy with his praise, and it's dragging out the good feelings. "You, too. Thank you."
Ells: "I could..." and RJ stumbles on his words a little, slides a hand up to Josh's chest and presses down with the heel of it to feel Josh's heartbeat. "I could /feel/ it, when you'd catch your breath. And the sounds you were making... in your throat, under my mouth... I felt it before I heard it." He nuzzles his face against Josh's hair for a second, still just... shell-shocked by it all.
Kat: "Wow," Josh says, sounding just as shell-shocked as RJ. He takes a second to collect his thoughts. "I could feel you all around me, during. It felt warm and safe."
Ells: RJ hums at him, and he might as well be fucking glowing with how happy that makes him, that he didn't just make Josh come, he made him feel that way. "'S cause it was. It is."
Kat: Josh hums his agreement and nuzzles into RJ's chest. "I love you. I always feel that way around you. Not always so floaty, though. That was new."
Ells: "Love you," RJ says back, and he doesn't even mumble or hesitate. "Floaty?"
Kat: Josh nods. "It's the best word I have for it right now. It was like..." Josh is quiet for a moment, trying to find the words that would fit best, "like everything was slower and fuzzy and good. My head didn't feel as full of thoughts as it usually does."
Ells: "As long as that's a good thing."
Kat: "It was," Josh says firmly, because he isn't 100% quite yet on what just happened, but he knows it was amazing. "I wasn't stuck in my head. It made it better."
Ells: "Awesome." RJ feels like there's probably a better word than that, but he can't be bothered to dig for it. "I'm glad I could help you do that."
Kat: Josh twists around a little so RJ can see his face, and he smiles. "Me too. Thank you." He stretches up a little to give RJ a peck on the lips.
Ells: RJ is grinning even Josh kisses him, once he sees Josh smiling at him. "My pleasure," he says, laughing a little, not enough to really jostle Josh.
Kat: "I could use a nap, though," Josh says after a moment's consideration. "I feel really relaxed and my body is tired."
Ells: I feel like the TV is still going and the light is on, and that was half the reason they were laying around like they were. "I can shut out the light," RJ says. "And you can lay down or you can sleep here," he says, pressing his hand against Josh again to make sure Josh knows what he means.
Kat: "I'd like to sleep here, then," Josh says. As soon as RJ offered it up as an option, it was a no-brainer for Josh.
Ells: "Mmkay," RJ mumbles, and he shuts the light out with magic. "TV too loud?"
Kat: Josh hadn't even noticed it was on still. "Nope, it's good." He burrows down a little bit, getting comfortable. "Night," he says, even though it really is just going to be a nap.
Ells: RJ just makes a vague little 'mmm' noise back at him and situates himself, knowing Josh might be out for a while.
Kat: Josh takes almost no time at all to pass out in RJ's arms. He probably sleeps for an hour and a halfish.
Ells: RJ mostly watches television, occasionally glancing down at Josh, sometimes because there was a louder noise than usual or he coughed/moved around, making sure he didn't disturb Josh. Sometimes just... because. His phone's by the bed and he remembers it after a while and texts back everyone he missed during that whole ordeal.
Ells: I read back right before I went to sleep and I just... that is cuddling. That is like hardcore next-level cuddling. RJ is awake and alert and could be up doing things and he's like 'nah think I'll just let Josh snooze on me'
Kat: That is really, really hardcore cuddling. And Josh to wake up still in RJ's arms and that's pretty awesome
Ells: Yeah. I was thinking about that. And I just...RJ wants to /really/ kiss Josh more than anything and has wanted to pretty much the whole time so it'll be nice when Josh wakes up and can actually move around and all.
Kat: When Josh wakes up, he'll probably go to stretch and then realize that he's enclosed in RJ and he'd smile and turn his head and kiss RJ's chest. "Hello," he says blearily.
Ells: RJ notices him stirring before he even says anything. "Welcome back."
Kat: "How long was I out?" Josh asks. He's not really making any effort to leave from where he's snuggled up against RJ.
Ells: "All of Intentional Talk and then some. So... little more than an hour?"
Kat: Josh hums. "You're good for sleeping on. I slept really well."
Ells: "Do you /ever/ sleep badly?" RJ asks, laughing. "I'm pretty sure it was the orgasm, not using me as a mattress."
Kat: "I do sometimes!" Josh insists. "Seth is no fun to sleep on. You'd think he'd be nice and snuggly and good because he doesn't move around constantly like a normal person, but he's also little and kinda bony. You're much better to sleep on. The orgasm might've helped, too, though."
Ells: "He is kinda bony," RJ says. "I'm not really sure what that says about me and my body type."
Kat: "That you aren't tiny and bony," Josh says, "and you are good for sleeping on." He turns around and gives RJ a kiss.
Ells: RJ makes a muffled sound against Josh's mouth at first, but then he kisses back. "And you can do that when you wake up," he says. "Seth might not be quite so good for that."
Kat: "You officially win out by a long shot, then." Josh kisses him again.
Ells: That time, RJ gets his hands on Josh wherever he can hold on to keep him there. He doesn't want Josh's mouth going anywhere when he's been waiting to be able to kiss him like, not a peck before sleep, but serious and charged, letting him work out all the feelings that bubbled up earlier.
Kat: Josh is a bit surprised by the shift from light, easy kisses to tell RJ good morning to this, but he doesn't mind at all. He can't help but feel that everything is perfect about this
Ells: RJ gets some of it out of his system before he lets up, and even when he does, he presses a couple more short, firm kisses to Josh's lips before he actually moves away enough to say anything. "Sorry," he says, but he's grinning. "Kinda been holding that in."
Kat: Josh shakes his head. "Absolutely no need to apologize for that. I didn't exactly mind it."
Ells: "You passed out on me pretty fast. I didn't get to do that. I don't think you'd have been much for kissing back, anyway."
Kat: "Probably not," Josh admits. "I was a little bit out of it."
Ells: "Mmm," RJ agrees, kissing him again. "I did that." He sounds proud of himself.
Kat: Josh kisses him for a bit and pulls away. "You did. It was pretty incredible."
Ells: "Yeah, you were."
Kat: Josh pinks up. "We were. I don't think that's something that could've happened to me by myself."
Ells: "I never did it to anybody else," RJ says. "Not like that."
Kat: "I'm going to have to look into exactly what happened. Something tells me it isn't isolated to just us."
Ells: "Research, research, research," RJ mutters, shaking his head. "Nerdiest Remington ever."
Kat: Josh grins sheepishly. "I mean, it happened once, and I dunno about you, but I really wouldn't mind it happening again. So I figure that maybe if I figure out what it is, we can figure out what happened and make sure we're doing everything safely and hopefully maybe actually try for it to happen sometime."
Ells: RJ kisses him again because Josh amazes him a little in general, but sometimes it's just... a lot. "Of course I'd want it to happen again. You really liked it. /I/ really liked it."
Kat: Josh beams. "Okay. Yeah. Good. Research."
Ells: "Yeah. But later. Once you get started, you'll be stuck on it."
Kat: Josh agrees. "Not right now. I'd rather cuddle with you right now."
Ells: "This is not cuddling," RJ protests, mouthing at Josh's jaw to make his point.
Kat: "I stand corrected." Josh tilts his head back slightly, close enough that if RJ wants to go back to kissing that it isn't an awkward distance to lean but that if RJ wants to go at his neck, RJ has better access.
Ells: "Mmhmm," RJ mutters back to him. He doesn't spend very long on Josh's jaw and neck, though, because he's still got a very strong urge to be kissing him. He works his way back up to Josh's mouth and his hands start to move from where they'd been holding steady, skimming up and down his back and sides, just being generally handsy without going for anywhere blatantly arousing. (RJ is probably still a great big grab-ass in this 'verse but I feel like he's more subtle and patient about it xD)
Kat: Josh is very reactive and pliable right now, since he just woke up from a nap, so he's rested and relaxed to begin with. Whenever he just wakes up, he's always more aware of his nakedness and his bare skin tends to be more sensitive, so even though RJ isn't deliberately trying to be blatantly arousing, the more heated kissing and the light touches along Josh's skin have Josh's dick paying attention.
Ells: RJ keeps it at that pace for a bit, just sort of getting his fill as much as he can, but after a while he can sort of feel that this is going somewhere for both of them. He stretches his thumbs out to draw little circles into Josh's skin on his hips, his stomach, draws his hands so they can brush over his nipples. "We doing something?"
Kat: "Yeah," Josh says, because by this point, he's already getting hard, and he could just let it go away on its own, but he doesn't really want to, and RJ didn't get off when he did earlier, anyway. "Let's do something."
Ells: RJ nods a little bit, thumbs still rubbing over Josh's nipples. Neither of them are actually the most sensitive there but RJ just plain likes Josh's, and he figures he's allowed to touch anything he wants as long as Josh doesn't object. "What do you want?" he murmurs, because he's still in that kind of headspace, what can you do that Josh will enjoy
Kat: Josh considers it for a second. "I want you to fuck me," he says, because that's what he really feels like at the moment. He wants RJ inside him a lot. Earlier he got an orgasm where RJ was all around him, his body holding Josh and his hand holding Josh's dick, and now Josh wants an orgasm where RJ is actually in him.
Ells: RJ nods again, more fervently this time, sliding his hands down and around to the curve of Josh's ass and squeezing a little at the thought. He can definitely deal with being in there after a while. "Get the stuff," he says.
Kat: Josh doesn't even bother with getting up and getting anything. He just brings it over with magic, because he's quite happy being there with RJ's hands on his ass. He hands it off to RJ

Ells: it just occurred to me that while RJ is still in shape and nice to look at and feel here in high school, as he gets older and starts having a more focused training program at college, that's when he's actually going to start to bulk up. And it's possible I have some feelings about that.
Kat: Josh definitely does, too
Ells: just, like. Like I've mentioned before, Josh isn't even as tall as he's going to be when they get together. He still has some growing up to do, and RJ's around for that. But then, Josh gets to see and feel RJ's body changing, too. And I just. *fans face* I'm not sure if I'm trying to dry my wet eyes or cool myself down. Both?
Kat: God, Josh is just going to be constantly amazed by RJ and the way his body is changing and his muscles are developing and he's going to be so, so proud of RJ and what he's accomplishing. AND ALSO REALLY TURNED ON.
Ells: y'know, it's interesting. In a world where RJ doesn't meet Josh until after all that's been happening, RJ was stoked and determined when it came to bulking up. It was good for him athletically and he bumped him into this certain /kind/ of hotness, people looking for that suddenly were into him, and RJ is into people being into him. Sure, there are some people who might've gone for him before that would now be turned off, but those weren't the kind of people he was into anyway. But like...I feel like as proud as he is of himself and happy about how it's going to affect his game and all, I think he gets a little worried at first about whether Josh is going to like it, because that's not what he's looked like while they've been together. I think when it actually goes from just maybe feeling a difference to being actually /visibly/ different, he probably asks Josh about it.
Kat: I think the idea of that seems ridiculous to Josh. He was so stupidly into RJ before, but now RJ is getting all these muscles and it's easier for him to move Josh the way he wants him and when he's fucking Josh, Josh can see how pronounced his abs are when they're helping him thrust into Josh and... Josh is basically in awe of RJ's body, and he tells him that.
Ells: I just got the craziest little blurb in my head where Josh is with RJ and he's standing up somewhere in the room and RJ's like, "Hmm," and he comes over to Josh and there they are, RJ in his stupid tank and shorts and Josh naked, and he's like, "Can I try something?" and Josh agrees and RJ kind of just backs him up to the wall and considers him for a second before he carefully hefts Josh up and pins him there with his body, still holding on at first like he's worried that Josh will fall, and after a second he just beams and is like, "Ha! I could do it."
Kat: Josh is so confused and flustered, and what comes out of his mouth is, "I am stupidly turned on by you right now."
Ells: RJ laughs at him. "I just wanted to see if it'd work like this. I'd probably collapse after, but I could totally fuck you like this."
Kat: Josh considers that. "I don't want you to be collapsing, but that sounds really, really, ridiculously hot."
Ells: "Yeah," RJ says, and he's starting to register how close he is to Josh rather than just ha! Did it! "I've been thinking about it for a while, but I didn't know if I was strong enough."
Kat: "You've been thinking about this?" Josh asks. He's blown away by that, a little bit, because that's... wow. Even Josh hadn't been thinking that way, but he is now.
Ells: "Definitely," RJ says, because his mind started going places as soon as he started /feeling/ stronger, noticing it in little things every day. "At first, I was mostly thinking about other stuff. Moving you while you were on top of me. Being able to hold your ass up long enough that I could eat you out easier on your back. But the stronger I got..."
Kat: Josh buries his head in RJ's shoulder. He's bright red and he really, really wants all of that. "How did I end up with the most perfect boyfriend? Like, actually. Wow."
Ells: "Well, see, when a drunk freshman and an upperclassman with poor judgment like each other /very/ much..."
Kat: "Then fucking miracles happen, apparently. Holy hell."
Ells: RJ laughs again. "I'm just happy I can still surprise you."
Kat: "If all your surprises are like this, I hope that you'll never, ever stop surprising me."
Ells: "They might not all be quite so exciting as fucking against the wall, but I'll do my best."
Kat: "Speaking of which, if you want to fuck me but not collapse, I can probably put a bit of magic into making it slightly easier. I could take just a bit of weight off you."
Ells: "That," RJ says seriously, "would be cheating."
Kat: "Mmhm," Josh agrees. "Do you want to try it without cheating?"
Ells: "Maybe you can help a little the /first/ time," RJ concedes. "I have a feeling I'm gonna be too into it to care about a little performance enhancement."
Kat: "Okay," Josh agrees, "and I'll leave most of it to you. I'll just give you a little boost." He doesn't want to completely levitate himself, because that would make it too easy on RJ, but he works with the air around him, channeling a little bit of magic into pushing the air into cushioning him and lifting him just a little bit. He tries letting his magic set, since he doesn't want have to worry about it falling apart if he's actually in the middle of things and his magic's a bit more unpredictable. "That good?"
Ells: RJ startles a little, because he can feel the difference and he kind of wasn't expecting... "Uh. Now?"
Kat: Josh laughs. "Not if you don't want to. I wanted to test it out and see if I could make it work properly either way."
Ells: "It might be a better idea to try it when you're already all opened up for me." (and omigod my brain is like SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD PROJECT FOR A PLUG DAY)
Kat: "Okey doke," Josh says, waving away the magic. "But now we both know that this is a thing that can happen."
Ells: RJ is super careful about letting Josh down so he can get his feet back under him, and when they're settled, he leans in and kisses him. "Benefits of college baseball."
Kat: "College baseball is fucking amazing," Josh says, and he kisses RJ. "10/10 would recommend."
Ells: RJ laughs at him, rubbing his hands against Josh's shoulder blades first and then everywhere else he was pressed against the wall. "I'll tell the coaches you approve."
Kat: Josh grins. "That will definitely a priority for them. Making your boyfriend happy."
Ells: "Well," RJ says. "If you're not happy, I'm not happy. And if I'm not happy, there goes all my good sportsmanship, positivity, and hard work. They had /better/ make you a priority."
Kat: Josh grins. "Wow, that makes me pretty damn important to them, doesn't it?"
Ells: "I'd like to think you'd be happy even if I was still a scrawny high schooler, though."
Kat: "Of course I would. I was stupidly attracted to you back then, too, you realize."
Ells: "You didn't know any better then." He pulls his tank up a little fake-casually, pretending to scratch an itch on his stomach. (total goober and show-off for life xD)
Kat: Josh rolls his eyes, but he's grinning. "It was a pretty safe bet that my hot teenaged boyfriend was going to get hotter."
Ells: "Guess I've got something to look forward to, too, then."
Kat: "We both do. Fucking hell." Josh shakes his head. He's still totally not over this. xD

Ells: after what happened with them in the bed and Josh does his research...I mean, he's gonna tell RJ what he found, right?
Kat: Yeah, he is. I think he would think that was important enough that it would need discussion
Ells: I'm just wondering how he goes about talking about it and how RJ reacts.
Kat: I think that he'd probably sit RJ down and be like, "Hey, so I did some research, and I figured out what happened."
Ells: "And it's normal, right?" That's what RJ has been anticipating/hoping for, because he doesn't want to hear that it's bad or dangerous and they shouldn't do it again.
Kat: "It isn't uncommon," Josh says, which is kind of hedging a little, but I don't think he's quite talked to RJ about how D/s this all is, because the main thing they've been doing there is the clothes. "But it doesn't happen to a lot of people."
Ells: "So you're special," RJ says, shrugging. "No surprise there."
Kat: "It's called subspace. As in, like... sub being short for submissive," Josh explains carefully. "Apparently there are some things that we've stumbled into that tend to revolve around dominance and submission in a kind of informal way."
Ells: RJ frowns deeply. "That doesn't sound like us."
Kat: Josh shakes his head. "Parts of it kind of do, from what I was reading about it, just not in the way you're probably thinking. It was never some really formal, structured thing for us, but... like, the not wearing clothing in certain spaces thing is actually surprisingly common in D/s relationships. The way we do it, it isn't /about/ there being strict rules that I have to follow or punishments or anything hardcore or formal like that, but I was reading blog posts on forums and the way some of them were talking about how it made them feel were actually pretty close to home, even for me with the way we do it. Stuff like that."
Ells: "Punishment? Yeah, no." RJ is trying to think about this from the 'it's something we already do and like' angle, that it's nothing to do with what anyone else does. "And this is okay with you?"
Kat: Josh nods. "I mean, it actually... I've known a little bit, for a while. When we started with the no clothes thing, I looked into it a little, but I didn't really think it was a major deal. My position's always been that if we were both happy doing it and that no one was getting hurt, then it didn't really matter if it was technically leaning D/s. It's all very individual, you know, and it didn't seem like something big or intimidating, because I knew how it felt for me, and big or intimidating definitely wasn't it. It isn't our whole relationship, it's just little parts of it. And with the subspace thing... I was looking into it, and it's something that's very individual as well. Different people go into subspace for different reasons and different people need different levels of attention during and afterwards. It's... the big dominance and submission label doesn't scare me because there aren't any expectations from me except for that whatever we do, we're going to do in a way that makes us happy. We aren't aiming for D/s, we're just kind of brushing with it sometimes, as we go."
Ells: RJ sits on that for a minute. "So...it isn't..." He sighs. "As long as we do what we're already doing right, I don't have to...think about it?" He's mildly creeped out by the terminology in general. He's not /dominating/ Josh, in his mind.
Kat: Josh nods. "Yup, that sounds about right. As long as you like what we're doing and we're doing it safely, which it seems like we are, then you don't have to think about it. I don't want to make into some big, scary thing with really... kind of loaded words? I just figured you should be aware of what we're doing. As for what we did the other day, it seems like what we did it just right, so if you're still comfortable with maybe not being just a one-time thing, I can do some serious thinking about what caused it for me and we can try again sometime soon."
Ells: RJ nods slowly, and he's a lot less tense once Josh confirms that it doesn't have to be some big deal or change anything. "I still want to try it again," he says honestly. "Is there...I mean, did you see other stuff you wanted to do? When you were looking?" He's trying to figure out how to be like 'so is this your thing?' without actually asking, especially because maybe Josh doesn't know.
Kat: "I didn't look much into other things we weren't already doing," Josh admits, "though I did go through the things on my list, and it turns out that a lot of them kind of lean that way, and I just never realized it. It wasn't something that was ever really on my radar as a Thing."
Ells: "Okay." RJ takes a second to just look at Josh. RJ's the same, Josh is the same, literally nothing is different. That makes him feel significantly less creepy about it all. "Does this happen to people by accident a lot?" He almost wants to laugh at the idea, because obviously neither of them was shooting for it.
Kat: "Probably not," Josh says. "I don't know. I don't think it could've happened to me at all if we didn't already have the naked thing in place."
Ells: "I didn't mean anything by it," RJ says. "When I brought it up. I didn't even think you were going to do it, I didn't think of it like...like that. A dominance thing." He winces over the last of it.
Kat: "Hey, no," Josh says, reaching out and grabbing his hand. "I remember when it happened, and how it was a joke and then suddenly it wasn't. I didn't think you thought of it that way. I didn't think of it that way, either. I'm just saying that when I'm not wearing clothes, I am a lot more..." Josh struggles to find the right word. "It's different. It feels different, and it's easier to be open and a lot of things just feel like more. It isn't dramatic, and it definitely isn't bad. I like it a lot. It's just different. And if I weren't starting out in that open kind of headspace, I don't think I would've been able to do what I did the other day."
Ells: "So, it's a good thing for you. All of it."
Kat: "All of it?"
Ells: "Everything we're already doing, I mean. You don't feel like you have to or anything."
Kat: Josh shakes his head. "If I didn't like it, or I were feeling cornered into it, I probably would've had a panic attack on the first day and that would've been it."
Ells: "Okay. As long as it's still what /you/ want." He squeezes Josh's hand.
Kat: Josh smiles. "It really, really is. I've probably never really expressed it properly, but it's really, really good for me in a lot of ways."
Ells: "I can tell. It's not like it was bad before, but it /is/ different."
Kat: Josh nods. "There's basically nothing about this that has been negative, for me."
Ells: "As long as it's good for you, I want to keep doing it. Even if I'm a little freaked out now."
Kat: Josh grimaces. "Sorry I freaked you out."
Ells: "No, it's okay," RJ says. "You found out some important stuff, I'm glad you told me. I just don't like thinking of it that way, I guess. I'm not...I wouldn't make /rules/ or tell you what to do."
Kat: "If we made it about rules, I would probably break them," Josh says wryly. "This works because it's things we both like that we agree we want to do, and because we like them, we do them. There don't /need/ to be rules."
Ells: "Yeah. And I don't think that needs a label. That's what /everybody/ does. They find stuff they like and do it."
Kat: Josh nods. "I agree. I'm really, really glad we're on the same page here."
Ells: "Me too. I'd hate to give up something we both love because it felt weird all of a sudden. And now you know more about how to maybe do something else you like."
Kat: "I don't think I really could give it up at this point, so that's definitely a good thing. And... you liked it too, right?" Josh is hyperaware of the fact that subspace is clearly deeper into this than what they normally do, and he can tell how this has kind of thrown RJ for a loop, and he needs the reassurance. "Like, if we did this again, it wouldn't be just for me, right?"
Ells: "It is for you," RJ says. "But it's not like you asked me to do what I did. I was doing what I wanted. I like you like that. It's not..." He twists his mouth up, looking for how he wants to describe it. "It's not even that it's sexy. It is, but I wasn't even..." He looks frustrated.
Kat: "It was sexy, but you weren't getting off on it?" Josh suggests.
Ells: "I wasn't worried about getting off on it. I was too caught up in you, I guess."
Kat: "Oh," Josh says, turning red. "Wow."
Ells: "Yeah. So that was... that was new. It's definitely for you, but that doesn't mean I don't like it."
Kat: "Good. Otherwise, I'd probably feel a bit selfish."
Ells: "Nothing wrong with being selfish sometimes. It's sex. It's about feeling good."
Kat: "Yeah," Josh says, because if there's one thing that being with RJ has taught him, it's that. He hugs RJ. "You're the best.”
Ells: "If you say so."
Kat: "I absolutely do. You make me very, very happy.

Ells: I like that he basically makes his peace with blowjobs once he's with Josh xD
Kat: he does?
Ells: he thinks about it differently, I think. First of all, he's Josh's very first blowjob, and that's a big deal and he deserves it to be good and spontaneous and eager instead of him having to ask about and RJ doing it grudgingly. The longer he's with him, though, because he's with just one person and he's thinking more in the big picture instead of an evening or a weekend... it stops feeling like a should-do. He doesn't have to be stunningly good, Josh knows how he does it and actually doesn't concretely know any better that there are people much, much better at it, and he feels like Josh doesn't /expect/ it of him? With the pressure off, he likes it a lot better, especially if he gets to sneak his fingers up inside Josh during.
Kat: *snuggles RJ* Josh likes it better with the fingers, too
Ells: I have a feeling the first time RJ is able to /properly/ finger Josh, get him open enough for it, he's gonna be... mostly ruined for life. Just. Done. Because he's thinking about actually putting his dick in there and it kinda makes him light-headed to think about.
Kat: nhgfrghnhgt wow
Ells: he's mildly offended by your reaction and making excuses in my head
Kat: why is he offended? Josh is absolutely ruined for life by it as well.
Ells: he's just miffed at the idea that deserves any sort of reaction. /of course/ he's ruined, he thinks. He hasn't actually put his dick in someone in a good while and /nobody/ ever put their dick in Josh before and this is actually probably the most open Josh has ever been and just... just a little more and he could fit, he could slide right in, and yeah. Ruined.
Kat: I am getting feels from this
Ells: ??
Kat: Just... it's not just physically that that's the most open Josh has ever been
Ells: Oh my god my heart. I'm gonna punch you in the solar plexus why would you say that
Kat: Because it actually took me rereading it twice to realize you MEANT physically
Ells: -_- sex and intimacy had a car crash again
Ells: I'm actually mildly overwhelmed at the idea of the first time they actually leeeet's go all the way toniiight xD Because like. Oh god. I don't know. It's different than everywhere else. In the canon, Josh has been fucked before, nbd. In the AU, yeah, RJ's the first one to get his dick in there, but when it happens, there's not... I mean, it's not as heavy as it is here. They were fucking around. Here he's Josh's first and it MATTERS. It matters then and there, while it's happening.
Kat: It absolutely matters. It's Josh's first time Josh will ever be fucked and he hasn't ever fucked anyone and this... he's a clean slate and he's trusting RJ with that.
Ells: And RJ's /aware/ of that, I think is the big thing. Not just that Josh hasn't done the fucking or being fucked thing, but he KNOWS how big of a deal of is. It's a privilege /and/ a responsibility.
Kat: I DO and you're definitely right. This is something important and it's new and Josh is putting a lot on RJ for RJ to be the first one there and to help make sure it's good and it's just... a lot.

Ells: y'know, I just realized how very much against the D/s label RJ is yet how perfectly comfortable he is about what they do. Imagine someone in the bdsm community being like, "So, what'd you do with Josh yesterday?" and RJ's all, "Well, he wore a buttplug all day and when he got to my room he stripped off since he doesn't wear clothes in my room, ever, and then I just sort of pinned him to the wall and fucked him." "Oh, so you're one of us." "Say what now?? Uh, no. Nope."
Ells: also it occurred to me that Josh's body works the same way as it always has and he's actually going to be /more/ accustomed to being fucked quite a bit earlier so at some point he's just gonna go off without RJ having gotten around to touching him yet and RJ's just gonna be like, "Oh... my god, did you just??" and basically lose it because holy shit
Kat: When I sit down and think about it, I can see Josh coming untouched happening a lot more frequently in this 'verse
Ells: well, like I've said before, it's something your body learns, right? So between it starting earlier in his sexual career /and/ him being able to trust RJ enough and just go with whatever, not worried about it or anything... it's a double whammy of likelihood
Kat: Absolutely. The nature of their relationship in this 'verse, both that it starts earlier and the sex starts earlier, and the fact that Josh basically trusts RJ with everything about himself and his body means that it can happen earlier and with frequency
Ells: I think that's gonna end up sparking a conversation on RJ's end. Like..."Does it feel different? When you come like that?"
Kat: "Yeah," Josh says, "I mean, it does on an obvious level because you're not touching my dick. That isn't what's making me go off, so it kind of feels like everything's centered differently."
Ells: "I figured that. I guess I mean...is it better one way or another? Because if it's better when I'm touching you I don't want you going without just because you /can/."
Kat: Josh shrugs. "I like them for different reasons. Like, most of the time, when I'm coming without you touching me, it's when my headspace is all different, and just naturally fuzzier and floatier. My body's figured out how to do it, but it only really likes to when I'm feeling particularly trusting and when I'm in a place where I can just let go. That headspace is pretty nice, even though it doesn't get my dick touched."
Ells: RJ's actually never come that way here in this 'verse, so he really just has to rely on what Josh says about it. "Okay. Just making sure I'm not being a total asshole getting off on you coming on my cock."
Kat: Josh laughs. "Nope. Not being an asshole at all."
Ells: "Good. 'Cause I /really/ like it." He grins.
Kat: Josh grins. "I'm glad we both like it, then."

Ells: I just had a super dumb thought about sex magic that we're not gonna talk about lalalala
Kat: ?????????????????????
Ells: It's....well, I guess you could consider it mood-altering in a way, but not in the same way. I was just thinking about how you were talking about Josh working on that magic to do with his heart and how to do it without getting hurt and all. And my mind kinda started to wander and I was thinking about moods and feelings and sex and closeness and started to wonder if there was magic that could like... temporarily sort of break down the barriers between two people so that when they're touching they can feel what the other is feelings. A purely physical and emotional thing, not like being in each other's heads on a thinky thoughts level. But something... y'know how I talk about how RJ works himself into enjoying giving head more? That he doesn't feel like there are expectations and he likes that it makes Josh feel good? Imagine him being able to /feel/ how good it is for Josh while he's doing it, and his big warm pleased worshipful feelings feeding right back into Josh? I'm dumb don't look at me don't touch me *covers face*
Kat: Oh my god no covering face I kind of love that
Ells: I'm just gonna hide here with my squishy wibblies that are technically sex-related but just give me emotions mostly
Kat: x.x my heart is exploding we should write that
Ells: My first thought after I described it was 'why don't people do that /all/ the time???' and then I realized it's probably really, really ridiculously intense (and also too intimate for anyone who isn't already very intimate)
Kat: oh my god I just had a realization
Ells: ???
Kat: They'd have to be super, super, super careful about it, but if they weakened the barrier ever so slightly, RJ would be able to feel just a little bit of what it's like for Josh going into subspace without RJ actually going into it himself and compromising Josh's safety (or his own)
Ells: That was occurring to me for an entirely different reason (it's funny how centered in our own characters we are, our thought processes work how theirs would) because if Josh were to go under, then after... that would be legitimately the best aftercare ever of all time because before the spell fades off, Josh would be able to actually wholly feel RJ's concern and care and love and awe and gentleness. It's not just something he can see and hear the results of, his hands careful and soothing, his words. He can literally feel everything that RJ is feeling for him even if neither of them says a word.
Kat: God, that WOULD be the best aftercare, because not only would Josh be completely immersed in RJ's feelings and concern and love, RJ would also be able to tell exactly what Josh needs
Ells: Can you even imagine how fucking blissed out those two would be? I can imagine RJ being very nearly embarrassed after it wore off
Ells: I sort of can't imagine anything quite so fucking intimate as being able to feel what someone feels when you make them come. Like... it's already a privilege to watch someone come, to hear it, to make it happen. It requires giving up a little secret part of yourself to let someone take you apart like that.
/feeling/ it... *shivers*
Kat: That's like... I don't know how there is any more intimate than that. I don't know how you get more than being able to actually share those emotions and that feeling and just... wow
Ells: Which actually... wow. Remember I said earlier it was the living together era when RJ stopped being able to stop himself talking about them being with each other forever? Uh... yeah I can see this triggering that
Kat: I can definitely see this triggering that. Absofuckinglutely. Like, when you've felt someone else's emotions like they were your own... that's not something you can just end. You're linked in a way that can never quite be undone after that
Ells: I can just... imagine sex every time after that, for the rest of your life...you can't /actually/ feel it all the time, and you know that, but you feel a certain kind of touch in a certain place, or there's a sound, and it's like you... you remember, and your body remembers, and for a second it's like you can feel it again because you know the way those things are connected
Kat: Afterwards, you always get ghost emotions
Ells: And you... it's irreversible, you can't unslam the door. You absolutely know for certain the love a person has for you, how deep it runs, how genuine and unselfish it is, the way it fills them up and makes them spill over. You can feel how happy you make them and sometimes when you see them smile you're spilling over too because you /know/. You felt it. You felt it inside you like it was your own and it didn't feel too big because it goes hand in hand with your own.
Kat: We need to write this
Ells: I'm very interested in how the decision to try this goes down, because I have a feeling both of them would be pretty aware of what they were getting themselves into and it's kind of... it's a lot
Kat: It's enormously a lot. I feel like Josh has gotten a book out from the college library and is reading it at the kitchen table and he sees it. and RJ is cooking and Josh is like, "Oh, wow, I didn't know you could do that." or something
Ells: And RJ's just like, "Huh?" distractedly, because he's not even been paying attention the fact that Josh is reading, because food
Kat: "I'm reading in this book, and it's talking about spells you can use to take down barriers between people. Like, not physical barriers, that everyone knows about, but like... emotional barriers. You can temporarily feel what another person, or a group of people, is feeling."
Ells: RJ makes a squinty face, trying to figure out what use that could be. "Might be helpful in therapy," he admits absently. "Not really sure what else you'd use it for." (p.s. If Josh doesn't pass this info on to C&C he is a Bad Person)
Kat: Josh flips the book to the front cover. "Well, the book is titled 25 magical intimacy spells, so..." (he would totally do that anyway)
Ells: "Like... /intimacy/ intimacy? Sex magic?"
Kat: "Yeah. It's all sex magic. A lot of it is a little bit creepy. There's a whole three or four chapters on mood-altering magic that I had to skip because it freaked me out. But there's some good stuff, too."
Ells: RJ makes a fake retching noise. "You know, some teacher back at SAS wanted to try that shit on Mari? Not for sex, obviously, but fuck that." He turns and leans against the counter, because he doesn't have anything to do again for a minute or two. "I can imagine swapping emotions during sex has led to /plenty/ of divorces. 'I knew you didn't think I'm sexy anymore!' 'Yeah, well, don't pretend like you weren't half-bored the whole time!' Doesn't seem like the best idea if stuff already needs /spicing up/."
Kat: "Yeah, no, I agree," Josh says. "But, then again, if you're at the spicing up stage, I don't think that sex magic is probably the way to go at all."
Ells: RJ makes a vague noise of disinterest and shrugs. "I don't really think we're gonna be in danger of /needing/ any spicing up for a long time. Maybe ever."
Kat: "No, I think we've got that covered." Josh grins.
Ells: He nods at the book. "You took that out for a reason, though. Interested in any of it?"
Kat: "Mostly I've just been working my way through the sex magic section of the library, and this was the next book on the shelf. I'm not even all the way done with the book. I just am halfway through this chapter and it seemed really interesting."
Ells: "Does it say how it works? I mean, not the technical stuff, but like... can you separate your feelings and theirs still?"
Kat: Josh hums. "From what it says, yeah. You can even filter in how much of the other person's feelings you're actually getting, in case what the other person is feeling is too overwhelming, and it isn't safe for you both to be feeling it that way."
Ells: "Huh," RJ says thoughtfully. "Kinda sounds right up your alley. I mean, that's just about as naked as you can get, yeah?" He grins.
Kat: "It kind of /is/ right up my alley," Josh says, and he sounds a little bit surprised by that.
Ells: I don't RJ's that surprised. When Josh finds something interesting and bothers to share, he basically starts to prepare. "Might be a little... over the top. I mean, we /know/ how we feel, right?"
Kat: "Yeah," Josh agrees. "I mean, I don't question the fact that you're mad for me, and I definitely feel the same about you."
Ells: "Probably a whole different story feeling it, though." He's trying not to lean too far one way or another. It's usually a good tactic for getting Josh to say more on how he feels about it.
Kat: "I was just thinking," Josh says to himself, "not full-on sharing, definitely, especially if we'd be testing it out for the first time. But, like... you know how I really like being under? I enjoy it a lot, and it's something that you've never been able to experience. And you could get just a little bit of what it feels like." Josh ponders that more. "It'd also make for pretty fantastic aftercare."
Ells: "I don’t know that I'd enjoy it the way you do," RJ says honestly. "It might be nice knowing how it feels for you, though. Different perspective."
Kat: Josh nods. "That was what I was kind of thinking."
Ells: "It sounds like something it might be better to try without that first. I mean, who's to say it won't already be wayyy out there even without you going under?"
Kat: "That's true," Josh agrees. "And it's never, ever good to try spells like this the first time when someone's already compromised."
Ells: "The dangerous sex lives of wizards," RJ says, shaking his head and turning back to what he's supposed to be cooking. "But it does sound like something you'd wanna try?" he asks casually, without even looking back over his shoulder.
Kat: "Yeah," Josh says, "if you're up for it."
Ells: RJ goes still at the stove for a second, thinking. "It could either be really, really good or really, really weird. I think I could live through the weird for a chance at the good."
Kat: Josh smiles. "Yeah?"
Ells: "I've lived through weird before. Plus, I'm bad at explaining how I feel, anyway. Hell of a lot easier to just broadcast it at you when you'll get a better picture."
Kat: Josh gets up and wraps his arms around RJ's waist and kisses his neck. "Thank you."
Ells: "Don't go thanking me yet," he says, but he drops a hand to Josh's arm where it's around him. "You better get reading up if you're gonna make magic like that work."
Kat: "I'm on it," Josh says. "So far, from what I've read, it seems totally doable, though."
Ells: "Cool. Sounds like we can do it soon, then."
Kat: Okay Josh Does the Research

Ells: I kinda want it because earlier I kind of let myself sink into RJ for a bit and hear and feel everything and /dude/. Y'know, most times, especially after a while, he tries to not be too affected as far as all the noisy shit and super obvious faces. But while I was prodding around in there, it was just near constant... just, like, a feedback loop, dude. He does something and the pleasure washes through Josh to him and he lets go of himself a little more which means Josh is further into it and... yeah. I'm thinking a lot about them fucking like this because good lord. It almost seems like it'd be hard to last in a situation like that xD
Kat: When you're dealing with TWO PEOPLE's amount of feeling good, both at once, I can imagine that it wouldn't last long at all
Kat: I actually wrote it in my head! With Josh telling RJ xD It's the only way that made it click for me. So Josh does the research and he looks at the basic spell, and it's essentially... everything in the spellbook that he checked out is verbal or wand magic. This spell was verbal. you're broadcasting your emotions out. You gather them up in your gut and you throw them out and you say the words of the spell. So, if someone else came in and was close enough to them, they would be able to feel all of their emotions, too. And then, the spell itself is kind of automatically set to wear off after about 90 minutes, but from all Josh's reading, most people, even experienced couples, don't last nearly that long the first time, so most shorten that verbally. And then, to control the extent to which you're giving out your emotions, the book recommended a "strong medium low" kind of thing, but Josh thought that was a bit bullshit, so he looked around and a lot of people with experience with the spell do it in terms of percentages. Anything below 15% is just feeling an inkling, not even recognizing that there's a whole feeling there that isn't yours. Anything above 90% is dangerous, because it starts to tear down your ability to separate between your magic and theirs, and it leaves you with withdrawal afterwards. Around 50% is recommended for first timers, because you can feel their feelings, but not quite as strongly as yours, and there is clear separation between whose is whose. So, that is done individually - both people have to say the spell anyway, so if RJ wanted to broadcast a lot of his to Josh but Josh was under and didn't want to broadcast a lot to RJ, RJ could set it at 70% and Josh could set it at 30%. You can change it during, but a lot of people have trouble with that, because they're overwhelmed and can't think clearly enough the first time to actually change that themselves, so Josh decided to add his own little improvement. It's a panic button, essentially. When you're done throwing your emotion out, when you're casting the beginning part of the spell, you just picture a red button, and so your body recognizes what it feels like before you take a breath back in. So you picture the red button and it sets it so that your body recognizes what it kind of feels like when either you're giving too much of yourself or you're taking in too much of someone else's feelings and it's too much or overwhelming. And so if that happens when the spell is in place, but you don't have the presence of mind to fix something on your own, the little red button pops up in your head, and you just have to imagine it being pushed and it essentially cuts everything off. It stops you from broadcasting or from taking in someone else's emotion. and I probably way overly complicated it but Josh wanted to be very, very specific and meticulous about what's going on
Ells: I like that you work stuff like that out, actually. I'd rather know than not, yeah?
Kat: Good. Anything else it seems like I'm missing?
Ells: I don't think so, no.
Kat: Awesome. So that's all sorted, then. Josh has so much fun with spells and tweaking them and doing the research
Ells: He's like Harry going all 'I love magic' except he actually does shit instead of just ]marveling]
Ells: Also I was thinking about, like, the first time two people do the spell...I actually can't imagine how you actually get around to having sex, yo. Because, like, is2g I would just be like...lying there in awe and staring and cuddling and crying and laughing xD
Kat: I was thinking about that, actually, and I think Josh wants to try it out for the first time with no sex, just for a couple of minutes, to see what it's like
Ells: that makes sense to me. Because I just....lord in heaven, it's a lot
Kat: Yeah, it is. It's a lot a lot
Ells: I'm having trouble comprehending how RJ would even react
Kat: I think it might be more overwhelming for RJ than for Josh, possibly, because Josh is used to handling really, really strong, overwhelming emotions. He'd have to adjust to the duality, but I think Josh could handle it about as well as someone can handle feeling someone else's emotions
Ells: That's what I was thinking. Like, i was going to say that RJ's 50% probably feels different from Josh's because RJ's feelings aren't so damn loud to begin with.
Kat: So it's kind of doubly much for RJ there, because he's getting two people's emotions and one of those people is Josh, who exists in a constant state of having a boatload of feels.
Ells: I can imagine after they call off the spell, RJ just kind of breathes and is quiet for a while and is like, "Do you feel like that /all the time/?"
Kat: "Pretty much, yeah."
Ells: "Oh my god."
Kat: Josh reaches over and rubs his back. "Was it really that much? I didn't think it was."
Ells: "It was a lot for me."
Kat: "I guess I'm just used to it," Josh says. "This.... what I was feeling, independently, I mean, just my feelings, weren't any stronger than they normally were. I could feel you getting a bit overwhelmed, though."
Ells: "I mean, it wasn't /bad/. I...actually, I loved it. I just wasn't expecting that much."
Kat: Josh kisses him. "You loved it?" he asks, because he did too, actually, but he thinks this is one of those things they should probably talk about. "If we actually go ahead and do this during sex, we can notch yours down a bit, if it's too much."
Ells: RJ ignores the questions for a minute in favor of kissing Josh. "I did. Did you?"
Kat: "I loved it a lot," Josh says.
Ells: "I don't think I want to turn it down. It was a lot, but it wasn't too much. I don't want to miss anything if we actually do something with it."
Kat: "You could turn yours up going out a little bit. Maybe to 60 or so. Not much, but I can handle a little more than what we did today."
Ells: RJ frowns. "I'm sorry that it's not...that mine doesn't feel the same as yours."
Kat: Josh shakes his head. "Don't you dare apologize for that. Just because your feelings aren't so crazily overwhelming as mine doesn't mean they aren't strong and important and worth it. We just feel things differently, and I like that. I like that your feelings aren't like... blaring a car radio in my ears."
Ells: "Your feelings are like..." RJ takes a minute to think about it. "Like, my feelings are all contained. They're /in/ me, but they're not the only thing, and they're not the only part, yeah? Yours are like...it was like /I/ was inside /them/."
Kat: "Contained is a very good word for your feelings," Josh agrees. "It was like this little bubble of emotion, and when I reached at it, it was warmth and surprise and fondness in the middle of everything, but... when I feel things, it colors everything, and it expands and it fills me up, but yours was all in one place and a lot more subtle. Much softer than I expected, in a good way."


Kat: I just had a realization
Ells: ???
Kat: If Josh were having a panic attack, RJ could broadcast out calming, reassuring feels and it would do wonders for Josh, because it isn't just having a conversation to latch onto, it's having actual, positive feelings he can focus on and that he can take in long enough to get his bearings
Ells: ...oh my god. /yes/
Kat: And, like, when RJ is in the hospital with his injury and they let Josh in, and RJ consented, Josh could immediately let RJ know in a very concrete way how he feels and that he's concerned but not freaking out and that he loves RJ and he can work on just sending out calm and reassuring and he can't send out painlessness but he can sure as hell try

The Weirdest Foreplay Ever


Kat: Okay so they've tested it out and they decide that sex is a go
Ells: And RJ's agreed that they can turn up what he's broadcasting a bit and leave Josh's at the level they tried
Kat: Right.  And so they probably give it a few days just to settle before heading into it
Ells: And RJ, for the first time since, like, waiting to fuck Josh for the first time, is all buzzy and nervous and excited on the inside because yeah maybe his usual feelings are pretty contained, but his sex feelings are gonna blow shit out of the water
Kat: Josh is like... bouncing off the walls xD
Ells: Like that's out of the ordinary *gives you The Look*
Kat: xD Moreso than usual, though.  Every time he's home and thinking about it he gets buzzy and bright-eyed
Ells: I have a feeling that cranks up the number of RJ's casual touches that are inappropriate
Ells: So are they going to try to work out what they're actually gonna do or just kind of go with it once the magic is in place?
Kat: If RJ cranks up the number of casual touches that are inappropriate, Josh is basically going to be in a constant state of flustered. I think Josh would probably want to talk about it
Ells: I am amused by the idea of RJ inappropriately touching Josh at random times. And like, sneak attacks. Like oh I'm just gonna stand behind you and run my hands down your back and rub little circles at the bottom of your spine 'cause wow relaxing right woops now how did I end up with my fingers pressing /there/ I certainly didn't /mean/ to tease, my bad *innocent face*
Kat: Josh would at first not even question it.  He'd just relax into RJ's hands and go boneless for a second and then they're on the butt and Josh would turn around and raise an eyebrow at him like, "Wow, really RJ?  Really?"
Ells: And RJ would shrug and basically sturgeon-face and get in a little more of a dirty feel before he takes his hands away completely and just walks away, going about his business and oh my god I just had an idea
Kat: ??
Ells: Okay so Josh has orgasm delay/denial on his list. Whaaaaaaaat about like RJ repeatedly turning Josh on and treating it super casually and never taking it anywhere...exploiting anything he can, showing off his own body or offhandedly saying the filthiest stuff or touching Josh, and then just...leaving it alone like it's nothing, like he wasn't even intending even though they both know he is, and waiting until Josh has mostly forgotten and isn't affected anymore to do it again
Kat: Ooooooh I like that a lot.  Josh probably wouldn't say anything about it for a while, either.  He'd kind of wait it out to see where it was going
Ells: I can see RJ figuring out ways to take it farther and farther each time, just to see if there's a breaking point
Kat: What would he try?
Ells: Man, you hit me in my weakness xD I'd have to work on that xD
Kat: I'm just trying to think and I think it'd actually probably have to hit the point of like... actual full-on groping and RJ just stopping and leaving it there and not /going/ anywhere with it before Josh would be like, "What are you doing?"
Ells: But I mean, what I'm saying is it starts out all 'I'm gonna touch the butt' and it gives RJ an Idea and it turns deliberate and I have a feeeeeeeling.  A sexual feeling, to be clear
Kat: xD I have a sexual feeling as well.  Josh is going to be in a constant state of sf
Ells: XD and RJ is going to be so into it and it's going to make him so tempted but he knows that would defeat his purpose
Kat: Josh has zero levels of patience, a lot of the time, but I think the way their relationship has developed, he has a certain amount of trust in RJ. Like, RJ is doing this thing where he keeps getting me turned on and leaving it be and I'm not sure why he's doing this and if he's just teasing because he as A Plan or if he's teasing for the sake of teasing but I will trust him until it starts getting ridiculous, because most likely, whatever he's doing here is going to end well
Ells: I'm trying to figure out where it /is/ going, because I'm not sure RJ has A Plan. The Plan is doing this, basically, and he knows it's going to lead to /something/ but he's not a plotter, y'know?
Kat: So he's basically doing it without an end goal?
Ells: Anyway, no. I think it starts random for RJ and becomes kind of a game and he's just trying to play off Josh, but even though Josh is reacting, he's not actually /doing anything/ and yeah
Kat: There's actually a 65% chance that Josh would be more likely to go for RJ's butt before actually saying anything to RJ about it
Ells: *snerks* I'm just imagining Josh actually getting handsy back or anything and RJ feigning shock, like, "Whoa, what are you so frisky about?"
Kat: Josh would look at him.  "Hm... I don't know.  It wouldn't have anything to do with someone else being particularly grabby."
Ells: RJ glances around the apartment, searching. "No, couldn't be, since we're the only two here."
Kat: Josh looks at him.  "Okay.  I don't know what you're up to, but I'll play along, I guess."
Ells: "I'm not /up/ to anything," RJ says gesturing vaguely down. "You're the one that keeps perking up every time the wind blows right."
Kat: "Only when the wind blows your hand to my ass even more than usual," Josh says.
Ells: RJ shrugs. "You're naked. Sometimes my aim is off. It's not like I'm fucking you open with my fingers on my way to the fridge."
Kat: I think this is super frustrating to Josh, and he's probably scowling, but he knows that RJ knows exactly what he's doing. "Okay, RJ."  He legitimately can't think of anything else to say but that.

Ells: also I was thinking after we'd gotten off the topic of RJ casually ignoring and denying that he's purposely turning Josh on...after he was all 'it's not like I'm fucking you open on my fingers on my way to the fridge' my next thought was, 'ahahahaha do it. Do it do it, come up behind him and kiss his neck and make sure he's into it and then get him nice and open and ready and then just vanish' and RJ in my head was like, "You think I could walk away from that??? This is difficult enough already."
Kat: hgfdrfgfrfg if he did it, I think he would break Josh
Ells: he could probably just barely manage it if he was behind Josh the entire time. He can keep himself a little more separate that way.
Kat: It would be like dumping a bucket of cold water on Josh's head xD
Ells: it's kind of a desperate effort xD like 'how far can this go??'
Kat: Josh would be like... he'd be there and waiting and like FINALLY THIS IS GOING SOMEWHERE and then all of a sudden RJ is gone.  And Josh turns around and he's like, "Whatever happened to not opening me up on the way to the fridge?"  And Josh is much more easily turned on when he's naked like this, and the first few times that RJ did something, it was a blip, because he and RJ live together and Josh is basically always naked, so RJ feeling him up when he walks by isn't exactly out of the ordinary.  But when RJ keeps building it up and Josh feels expecting something to come only to have nothing happen, it just keeps building up and building up and he starts getting hard at even the littlest things. And RJ opening Josh up is /not/ a little thing
Ells: it takes a /lot/ for RJ to keep his expression fairly neutral this time, compared to the last time Josh said something about it. "Wasn't on the way to the fridge," he says blandly, and fixes himself a glass of water at the sink.
Kat: "Oh my /god/," Josh says, and he sounds unbelievably frustrated and flustered.  He's standing there, hard, in the middle of their kitchen, all opened up, and RJ is just... Josh actually cannot handle this neutrally.
Ells: "Something wrong?" He leans against the counter and contemplates the slippery fingers on one hand while he drinks from the glass in his other.
Kat: "Dude, we both know you're doing this, and I'm totally willing to go with it and just let you string me along if you've got some sort of endgame for this, but can you at least quit pretending that you're not doing this intentionally?  I'm on the verge of strangling you."
Ells: "Strangling wasn't really what I was aiming for."
Kat: "What WERE you aiming for?  Because I'm not getting it."
Ells: RJ shrugs. "Nothing, at first. Now I guess I'm trying to see how long it takes for you to....give up and fucking jump me already."
Kat: "I was kind of under the impression that if I did that, you'd mock me and pretend you weren't doing anything again."
Ells: "Mmm. Maybe."
Kat: "Yeah.  I'm not going to do that, then."
Ells: "That's a shame."
Kat: Josh shrugs.  "I can handle the build-up.  I can't deal with the mocking and the telling me I'm imagining things."  (I feel like RJ has actually accidentally stumbled across a really sore spot.)
Ells: RJ breaks a little, because he could handle if Josh got pissy or something, but he didn't mean to upset him. "I was just trying to see if you'd get keyed up enough to call my bluff. Really call it, not just ask and then let it slide."  (I'm super-intrigued by RJ's thought process while I'm trying to poke at it, because there are these little flashes in his head of....some interesting stuff)
Kat: "Just... for future reference, that's not a good way to do it," Josh says apologetically.  He feels a little guilty, because he's being stupidly sensitive and he's ruining it, but it's just one thing he really can't deal with.   (?)
Ells: (I dunno. I really genuinely think he was trying to bait Josh into getting kind of aggressive with him. Not once did Josh ever question whether RJ /wanted/ to fuck around when RJ was /clearly/ bluffing about what he was doing, and it's not like a...anything like playing around with consent, it's not like he wants to pretend he doesn't /want it/, he just wants Josh excited and frustrated enough to get kind of hungry and pushy)
Kat: (*winces* so that has gone badly wrong so far)
Ells: (and it's not something he'd feel super comfortable saying it the way I can just say it, so he was kinda doing it the only way he knew how)
Kat: (well, the bad news is, now Josh realizes what RJ wants but is much further back away from the point where he would actually do it)
Ells: RJ puts his glass down in the sink and goes back over to Josh and puts his arms around him, legitimately innocent this time. "I didn't mean anything by it. I didn't want to make you feel like I didn't want you. I want you all the time."
Kat: Josh leans into RJ's arms and shakes his head.  "No, that's not... that's not it.  That was not the issue.  Like, there's nothing about opening me up in the middle of the kitchen that says you don't want me."
Ells: "It's definitely not something you could imagine, either."
Kat: "I know.  I'm sorry.  I'm just... oversensitive. About that.  Being told I'm imagining things.  It's stupid."
Ells: "Whoa, no. It's not stupid. If it's something that bothers you, it's not stupid at all. I shouldn't have been such a shithead and /said/ something instead of..."
Kat: "Hey," Josh says, moving one of his arms to RJ's back.  "It's okay.  You couldn't have known."
Ells: "I'll stop being a dick now," he says, sighing, because literally nothing came of this except him accidentally making Josh feel bad.
Kat: "It's okay," Josh repeats.  "It was a good idea, and it was exciting when it was going on.  It's just that after a childhood where... things happen like you accidentally making your friend's stuffed cookie monster grow to about ten times its normal size and crush a chair only to be told that it never happened and that you must have been imagining things because the adults don't want to have to deal with stuff happening that they can't explain, you get really, really defensive when people tell you you're imagining things."
Ells: "Growing up around muggles sounds really shitty, dude. If that had happened in my neighborhood there would've been a cute chain email about it."
Kat: "My kindergarten teacher actually sent a note home to my parents at one point during the year telling them they needed to talk to me about my 'overactive imagination' and that I needed to stop spreading my 'ridiculous stories' around to the other kids."
Ells: "Even if you had been imagining things, they should've been encouraging that."
Kat: Josh shrugs.  "Either way, I'm sorry my baggage got in the way of sexy times."
Ells: "Me not discussing things like a human being got in the way of sexy times."
Kat: "I probably could've handled it better, too, though."
Ells: "Yeah, but my problem was me being dumb. Yours was legit."
Kat: "Well, now you know, and I can't see you doing it again, so we're good."  Josh doesn't think all this self-blaming that's going on is being very productive.
Ells: "Yeah, not really planning on a repeat attempt."
Kat: Josh hugs him. "Then we're good."
Ells: "If you say so." It's part of their usual back and forth, but it slants downwards into 'well, that's that' instead of having that cute little uptick, like he's waiting for Josh to say so.
Kat: Josh says so anyway.
Ells: RJ gives him the barest hint of a smile, out of a habit, and pulls away.
Kat: Josh doesn't really want to let go of RJ, but he lets RJ pull away
Ells: "So that sucked," RJ says, and he goes back and retrieves his water glass so he can drink the rest. "Now what."
Kat: "I don't even know," Josh says.  "There's like... serious mood whiplash going on over here, still."
Ells: "Whiplash?"
Kat: "Like... five minutes ago I was frustrated in a good way, and my body isn't quite sure what's going on right now, because things changed pretty quickly."
Ells: "Right," RJ says, and he wipes his fingers off against his shorts. "It doesn't know the vibe got killed, yet."
Kat: "Essentially, yeah."
Ells: "Sorry. I'll leave you alone for a while so you can get back to normal, I guess?"
Kat: Josh frowns.  "That might be a good solution for my dick, but I don't think I'd like that very much."
Ells: "I feel like not the best to be around right now," RJ admits.
Kat: Josh's frown deepens.  "Look, it's not like you were intentionally trying to be an asshole.  There was legitimately no way for you to know that what you were saying was going to go badly.  When you realized, you said you wouldn't do it again.  I'm not upset.  The mood was killed, but I'm not upset, and I want you around. Unless you want some space from me right now, in which case, I totally understand, but, like. I stand a better chance of feeling better about this whole thing with you here than with you somewhere else."
Ells: "I know you're not upset with me. I'm upset with me. This is literally the opposite of what I wanted."
Kat: "I'm sorry," Josh repeats, because he doesn't know what else to say.
Ells: "It's not your fault." He finishes his water and half-assed rinses his glass. "I'm just gonna-" He flails an arm at the tv and it comes on. "Yeah." He leaves the kitchen and goes and slumps on the couch.
Kat: Josh isn't sure whether RJ wants him nearby or not, so he kind of hovers in the kitchen for a moment before kind of easing himself down and settling in on the couch, with enough space between them that it doesn't look like Josh doesn't want to be near RJ but that he isn't right up in RJ's space.
Ells: RJ glances over at him for a second and his eyebrows lift just a little, but he doesn't say anything and turns back to the tv. He's not really paying attention to what's going on there, but it makes him look occupied at least.
Kat: Josh tentatively scoots closer
Ells: RJ is noticing this out of the corner of his eye, and he doesn't look over, but he sighs and flops his hand into the space between them, palm up. He doesn't really want to be snuggled up with Josh right now, but he figures he can throw him a bone, somewhat.
Kat: Josh takes it.  Sometimes I think he forgets that physical contact doesn't work for everyone the way it works for him.  Like, hugging people or cuddling or holding hands makes him feel about ten times better, and I think there are moments where he has to actually think about it and realize that RJ isn't like him that way
Ells: RJ grips Josh's hand for a second and then just relaxes so they're just sitting hand in hand. The silence feels bizarre, even with the television noise, but he doesn't really know what else he's supposed to say. No one's even angry, it's not like they have to make up, but it still feels unsettled and not good.
Kat: The silence drives Josh crazy, so a commercial comes on and Josh just makes an off-handed comment about it.  I can see him winding up going on rambling about the company's past ad campaigns and how unsuccessful they were because "Their commercials were AWFUL and even the jingle wasn't any good."  He starts off just needing to fill up the silence, but about halfway through, he actually starts getting really into it
Ells: And RJ is just sitting there listening, and somewhere in the middle he actually turns to pay attention to Josh, shaking his head. "You can talk about anything, can't you?"
Kat: "Not everything," Josh says.  "I don't know much about... like quantum mechanics or Russian literature.  Or all those stupid British goblin wars."
Ells: "You'd probably just find a lot to say about /why/ you don't know anything about that stuff."
Kat: "Quantum mechanics is a mess, Russian literature is depressing, and there are way too many fucking British goblin wars, and I always get them mixed up."
Ells: "Yep," RJ says, feeling pretty validated. "Like I said. Anything."
Kat: Josh grins sheepishly.  "I mean, that's the way I make sense of the world, you know?  Some people shove things in their mouth.  I talk about them. And also sometimes shove things in my mouth, but that's not really related."
Ells: RJ cracks half a grin at him. "I think you've probably made plenty of sense of everything you shove in your mouth."
Kat: "That's true.  And shoving them in my mouth was an important step to understanding them."
Ells: "Food definitely makes more sense when you actually eat it, yeah," RJ says, like that's the obvious first direction that line of reasoning would go in.
Kat: "And most not-going-to-kill-you-y liquids."
Ells: "Alcohol. Alcohol doesn't make /any/ sense til you've shoved it in your mouth."
Kat: "Not one little bit of sense," Josh agrees.
Ells: "And then you have your non-edibles."
Kat: "Tongue."
Ells: "That's an important one. Although, it's the other person usually doing the shoving, then."
Kat: "It'd probably be hella awkward to try and shove someone else's tongue into your mouth."
Ells: "Sucking is a much better tactic there."
Kat: Josh nods.  "And fingers make sense out of mouths, but they make a lot of sense when they get shoved in in certain contexts."
Ells: And that's just far enough to get RJ slightly dodgier again. "Mmhm," he says neutrally.
Kat: "That's like... kids figure out the sticking fingers in mouths thing, though, so it's a bit strange."
Ells: "Kids just kind of put everything in there. Mari swallowed half a dollar in change before she got out of that phase."
Kat: "I used to chew on doorframes, according to my dad."
Ells: "Beaver."
Kat: "Chomp chomp chomp."
Ells: "Not always the best idea to gnaw the things you shove in your mouth."
Kat: "Most definitely not.  Sometimes, that is a painful idea."
Ells: "Like the fingers," he agrees.
Kat: "And other things."  Beat. "Like rocks."
Ells: "If I catch you with rocks in your mouth, I'm shipping you back to your dad express mail."
Kat: Josh cracks up.  "I would not put rocks in my mouth.  I'm just saying, like, hypothetically."
Ells: "Right. Like all the other things you could hypothetically put in there."
Kat: "Fireworks.  That'd be painful, too."
Ells: "Not if they weren't lit." He pauses for a bit. "Glass. You remember that one True Life with the guy who ate light bulbs?"
Kat: "Oh my god," Josh says. "Don't remind me of that.  That still makes me cringe."
Ells: "That was so fucked up. I don't even know why I didn't change the channel. Of all the junk you could eat to show off....why not just get really spicy chicken wings? Everyone's impressed and no one gets mental images of their stomach getting shredded."
Kat: "That was really, really fucked up.  And also kind of paralyzing."
Ells: "Some people should have to consult other people before they shove things in their mouth."
Kat: "Agreed.  Small children and people who want to eat glass.  And also kings and important leaders who might get poisoned."
Ells: "And, y'know, sometimes you have to consult another person in the first place, if what you're shoving belongs to them."
Kat: "Consent is important."
Ells: "Very. Like, you should really consult a guy before you wolf down the last section of his Subway sandwich that he was saving for after his workout. Because he might feel violated if you don't."
Kat: "Absolutely.  Food theft is a dangerous phenomenon."
Ells: "It's on the rise locally, I hear."
Kat: "Oh, really?" Josh asks innocently.
Ells: "'Mm. The officials are too soft to crack down on it. Something about the thief being very sexy."
Kat: "That is a very good reason for the officials to take it easy on this hypothetical food thief."
Ells: "I'm not sure I agree yet, but we'll see."
Kat: "I hear food thieves are good at doing other things with their mouths."
Ells: "Is that so?"
Kat: "Scientific research says as much."
Ells: "Seems like they'd be pretty good at talking themselves out of trouble."
Kat: "Well, they definitely like to talk."
Ells: "You sure seem to know a lot about these food thieves. What was that, a class project or something?"
Kat: "I've done a lot of research.  You learn a lot about food thieves when you live in dorms."
Ells: "See, I had a different experience. I didn't learn much about food thieves until after I moved into my own place."
Kat: "That's such a strange situation," Josh says.  "You might want to get the wards checked."
Ells: "Well, see," RJ says, with a very serious concerned face. "I think my wards guy might be in the thief's inner circle. Can't be trusted."
Kat: "It's a conspiracy," Josh says seriously.  "Lots of plotty plotting."
Ells: "I've been thinking about confronting the thief myself, but I'm not quite sure how to handle situation."
Kat: "That would depend on how sexy the food thief really is."
Ells: "Well, I've always heard that thieves need to be dealt with firmly."
Kat: "Really?  I've never heard that before."
Ells: "I think sexiness could definitely be a factor, in that case."
Kat: "If the sexiness factor is high, how firmly are we talking?"
Ells: "Oh, very firmly. You can't afford to show mercy in these situations. You want the thief to remember the lesson he learned."
Kat: "How would you teach the thief a lesson?"
Ells: "I'll tell you this much," RJ says, leaning in a little like it's a secret, "he won't want to sit down for a long while afterward."
Kat: Josh hums. "That sounds like something the food thief wouldn't forget."  He doesn't correct RJ on assuming it's a he.
Ells: "My only question is whether it'd really be a punishment for that sort of criminal. Maybe he'd just get a kick out of it and I'd be wasting my time."
Kat: "I don't know.  Making him squirm in his seat when he went to class because he was sore sounds like it'd be sufficient."
Ells: "Class, eh? You think he's the intellectual type?"
Kat: "Well, to get around your wards, he'd either have to be tricky or smart.  Definitely seems like the college type to me."
Ells: "Maybe he might like to take a little extra reminder with him to class, then. Just to make sure he remembers."
Kat: "What kind of little extra reminder?"
Ells: "Mm. Something that'd stay with him. Maybe something that belongs to me, so he'd remember just who he'd learned his lesson about thieving from."
Kat: "What kind of something, and where would he keep it?"
Ells: "Something personal. So he's sure to keep thinking about me and what he's done. And he'd better keep it inside him, like a secret, or I'll be very disappointed and have to remind him of his lesson."
Kat: Josh nods seriously, but he's getting a bit flushed just thinking about it.  "He definitely wouldn't be able to forget that, all through class."
Ells: "So, see, it's a brilliant plan, but I can't put it into action until I catch the thief or he gives himself up."
Kat: "A properly tricky thief wouldn't do that."
Ells: "And there you have my dilemma. All I want is to show him the error of his ways. He'll feel so much better after, when I've given him what he's been asking for. But some thieves just don't want to learn a lesson, I guess. Not from me, at least."
Kat: "Want to know a secret?"
Ells: "Mm?"
Kat: Josh leans in and whispers, "I know who the food thief is," into RJ's ear.
Ells: RJ pulls back, eyes wide and mouth open. "Well, why didn't you say so?"
Kat: "Well, a clever thief would never give himself up, would he?"
Ells: "/Oh/," RJ says, and he's aiming for dawning realization, but it mostly just comes out all throaty and keyed up. "No. Not unless he wanted to make up for his awful, thieving ways."
Kat: "Not unless he knew the consequences and wanted to be taught a lesson."
Ells: "I don't know. If he seemed so eager to change, I might try to convince him with my clever tongue, first."
Kat: "You should definitely try that first," Josh says as evenly as he can manage.  "You might need to continue on with the original plan, though.  After all, your tongue might make a very convincing argument, but it doesn't serve as a lasting reminder."
Ells: "You're probably right," RJ says, nodding. "It's always best to come at a problem from more than one angle, anyway."
Kat: "You have to make sure you come at it from all the available angles," Josh agrees.
Ells: "I suppose it's just a question of timing, now."
Kat: "Hmmm... I think you should try your tongue first, very soon, to see how he responds.  After that, you should give him a little bit of time to reflect on what he did before you try a different angle."


Ells: I mean, he's obviously still into what he's talking about and he's always happy to make a very convincing argument with his tongue. But it just falls right back into their usual routine, in the abstract way.
Kat: does he consider that a bad thing in this case?
Ells: not a bad thing in the sense that he doesn't want to do it or anything. He'd just been thinking for a while about this thing he wants and then he was /actively/ trying to get it and then it all got ruined and now he's just back to 'yeah guess that's not gonna be a thing'
Kat: I think that probably, at some point within the next couple of days, Josh probably attempts to communicate to him that what he tried was a good thing and Josh wants to try it again, because I think Josh spends a fair amount of time thinking about it and wondering what his breaking point actually is before he just kind of jumps RJ.  He doesn't know if it'll work the same way, or if RJ will want to try it, but Josh is up for attempt number two
Ells: I think RJ would appreciate the offer? He doesn't really know anymore how to go about it, though, since he screwed up so badly the first time. I guess it would actually make it easier, though, because he wouldn't have to be sneaky or do things he could make excuses for if need be. They both know just what he's doing, then. The difference is, if his intentions are clear, it gets harder for him to actually control himself and stop xD  on the upside of that, though, I think he wants it enough that he could muddle through to see where it goes. It might take some extreme measures in self-control, but he has discipline.
Kat: So it would be an Attempt 1 instead of a Huge Failure
Ells: which I'm kind of invested in now thanks to RJ because, like...I totally see where he was going with opening Josh up now
Kat: ?
Ells: well, he was kind of expecting that to maybe be a tipping point, and if Josh doesn't actually need any prep...well, he's 100% free to just take what he wants from RJ, yeah?
Kat: Definitely.  And the good thing is, I think now that it's been clearly established what RJ was aiming for during the first attempt, Josh feels significantly less weird about just going for it when he finally gets really, really frustrated to that level with the second attempt.
Ells: I just keep thinking about it finally happening and RJ is so surprised and happy he laughs a little but that doesn't last long because /oh/
Kat: xD Is it just me, or does this turn into Josh getting RJ's clothes off and riding him very, very quickly?  Not as in quickly in terms of when RJ starts teasing, but quickly in terms of once Josh gives up
Ells: mmmm. I think that's gonna depend on Josh, not us.
Kat:  Josh would figure that he's already opened up, you know.  Might as well do something with that
Ells: I think that's what RJ ultimately expected out of it. It's not like he expected Josh to throw him facedown and fuck him or something. He knows where they stand on the topping/bottoming situation most of the time. So yeah, the idea of Josh just kind of pinning him and using RJ's cock to get himself off because he's fed up and not going to take it anymore... *full-body squirm*
Kat:  It looks like that's how it's shaping up in Josh's head, definitely.  He might not even bother getting RJ's shirt off before he does it.
Ells: I have a lot of hnngs and like 80% of them are purely RJ's
Kat: All I'm getting from Josh is like... the moment where everything slots into place.  And one second he's frustrated and turned on and a lot desperate, and then things shift and it's replaced with certainty and determination (and also a lot of desperation, still) and he goes over to RJ and he's like, "Nope, that's it.  I'm done." and his hand goes straight for the button on RJ's pants
Ells: and RJ's been thinking about this so long that the fact that something's actually happening he's actually like ??? for all of a few seconds before it hits him. "Done?"
Kat: "With the teasing.  You've been getting me riled up, right?  Well, I'm there."  The zipper goes down, and Josh gets his fingers in RJ's belt loops and rests them there
Ells: RJ glances down at Josh's hands and then back up at his face. "Yeah? What are you gonna do about it?"
Kat: Josh uses RJ's belt loops to tug him towards the bed.  "Well, I'm just going to have to take what I want, if you're not going to give it to me, aren't I?"
Ells: RJ follows along just enough so that he doesn't trip over his feet, letting Josh do all the leading. "You think you can?"
Kat: When Josh has RJ situated right in front of the bed, he pulls RJ's pants down to his knees.  "I know I can.  After all, that's what you wanted from this all along, wasn't it?  To get me desperate enough that I'd be shameless enough to just go for what I wanted."
Ells: RJ smirks. "Desperate and shameless? Now, why would I want that?"
Kat: Josh pushes him back and uses his magic to lower RJ gradually onto the bed.  "Hmmm, I don't know," Josh says.  He's torn between taking his turn teasing RJ and just sticking RJ's dick in him.  He reaches down and runs a finger up RJ's dick.
Ells: "If I didn't know better, I'd say you weren't very desperate at all."
Kat: "You'd be wrong," Josh says.  He grips RJ firmly in one hand and turns around, lining himself up and pressing RJ just up against his rim.
Ells: RJ has to bite back everything he'd normally want to say right now, and he's been trying so hard not to let on how he's pretty much desperate, too. "Oh, is that what you want so bad?"
Kat: Josh doesn't say anything at first.  He just pushes RJ in slowly.
Ells: RJ's arms splay out across the bed, reaching for something to hold onto, and comes up handfuls of the sheets. He pushes his hips a little, just to see if Josh will let him.
Kat: "If I wanted this slightly less, I'd pin your hips to the bed and make you just lay there and let me do all the work," Josh says as he bottoms out.  He stays there for a few seconds to adjust before lifting himself up again.
Ells: "Hmm," RJ says, but it's strained because there happens to be someone ON HIS DICK. "I think I remember this starting because I wasn't going to give you what you wanted." He settles back against the bed.
Kat: Josh can't help but laugh.  "Pretty sure that's how this started."  He gets into a rhythm, fucking himself slowly but as deeply as he can.  "I was going to see if your self-control was as terrible as mine clearly is."
Ells: RJ laughs at him and stays as still as he can. "Athlete, remember? I'm good at this."
Kat: "Stupid athletes," Josh grumbles, but he's more than a little turned on by this whole situation. He's worked up enough that even this is getting him far closer than he'd like.
Ells: "Besides," RJ says, "if I'm fucking you, I might get the idea that how I want it /matters/."
Kat: "We can't have that," Josh says mildly, thrusting down on RJ harder and rolling his hips.
Ells: "Fuck." RJ has to squeeze his eyes shut tight to keep himself still with the way Josh is moving. "Def... definitely not. Just you."
Kat: "Yup," Josh says, "so I get to do everything just how /I/ like it."  He changes the angle slightly so that he's hitting the right spot more often than not when he fucks himself on RJ
Ells: All of this is /really/ fucking up RJ's system, and he's maybe very good at keeping himself still but that doesn't actually mean he's any good at holding himself back from being closer to coming than he'd like. He's fighting it down hard, though, because that's not how this is going to go. "I'm just lucky," he pants. "Lucky you wanted this toy-" he writhes just a little under Josh, not fucking into him, just punctuating what he's saying, "instead of another."
Kat: Josh's hips stutter at that one because holy shit, this was not what he signed up for, but this is actually really working for him?  He tries to pick up the pace a bit, but he's not... it fucks up his rhythm, and he decides the slow drag and the consistency was better, so he slows it back down.  He's starting to get a bit tired, but he's pretty sure that he isn't going to have to get a hand on himself to get off from this.  "Well," he gets out, "this one was right there.  I didn't want to have to go digging around in the nightstand."
Ells: RJ groans, loud and almost pained, because Josh picking up for a second and then going right back to fucking torturing him is agonizing but also perfect, because Josh is doing just what he wants with him. "Wouldn't have to worry about your other toys giving out on you before you were finished with them."
Kat: "But when this toy gives out, I don't have to buy new batteries," Josh says, "And I don't have to clean it off when I'm done with it."  Josh can feel himself starting to get tired, but he's so close that he figures he can keep up his pace for just a bit longer to get himself there.
Ells: RJ is tempted to argue that a vibrator still fucks when its batteries go out, whereas his cock...not so much, but he'd pretty much choke if he tried to say that much right now. His eyes are open again and he's just watching Josh fuck himself on RJ's cock, just going after it, and he feels like this is exactly what he wanted. "Other toys can't feel it when you come around them, either."
Kat: "Well, that's true," Josh says, trying to keep his voice from sounding too breathless.  "But that's not really important, is it?  It's a toy.  I'm just using it to get me off."
Ells: "/Holy/-" RJ brings a fist up to his mouth and bites down on a knuckle. He has to purposely lock up to keep from ramming up into Josh. Before it actually helped to remind himself that he was just there for Josh to use, it kept him distanced a little, but now it's doing just the opposite.
Kat: Josh fucks himself just a bit harder for a few thrusts before everything tightens and he comes, squeezing around RJ.
Ells: I don't think it even occurs to RJ that he can come now, Josh doesn't actually need him to be hard anymore. He's too focused on Josh getting off and knowing that he didn't do a fucking thing, he was nothing but a tool for Josh's pleasure and Josh embraced it, he /owned/ it and got exactly what he wanted.
Kat: Josh shallowly fucks himself through it until he's spent, and he pulls himself up off RJ's cock and settles down on the bed next to him.
Ells: RJ outright whines when he loses the warmth and the pressure of Josh around him and his hand flies pretty much by instinct to his cock, gripping around the base, but he's not even jerking off, just replacing that tight, hot clutch.
Kat: Josh just kind of starfishes his limbs out.  "Well, I got what I wanted."
Ells: "Mm," RJ forces out, and once he's done something /resembling/ vocalizing, he finds his voice again. "Doesn't matter what happens to the toy after?"
Kat: Now that Josh has already come, he feels a lot less certain.  "Well, the toy did a good job, and it lasted as long as I needed to. You have to treat the toy well, or it might not work in the future when you want it to."
Ells: RJ doesn't even know what to say to that, because for once he's the one that's desperate and not really able to think on a complex enough level to carry this kind of thing any further. "Shit, can I just-" He drags his hand up the length of his dick once, moaning.  (RJ is caught between a rock and a hard place right now because he expected Josh to be like, "Who gives a fuck what happens to the toy?" and he would have felt perfectly entitled to just jerk himself furiously until he came)
Kat: "Yeah," Josh says.  "Go for it."
Ells: It doesn't take very much after Josh gives him the go-ahead. He gets a couple of pulls in and comes, shuddering through it and not even bothering to work himself all the way through like he usually would before he gives up and lets his hand drop.
Kat: Josh figures that now that they've both come, he can drop things and go back to normal.  "Well, was that what you were aiming for?" Josh asks, moving over and snuggling up against RJ
Ells: "I don't even know," RJ admits. "I think I got more than I expected."
Kat: "In a good way?"
Ells: "/Yeah/," he says emphatically. "You just kind of went with it."
Kat: "Of course I did.  I don't know how I could've done anything else.  It surprised me how into it I was."
Ells: "I didn't expect you to be. Not with....with the way things usually are."
Kat: "Yeah," Josh says slowly.  "I'm still not sure what did it for me, since it isn't exactly the way we usually fit together.  Maybe it was the fact that you were basically giving me the okay to feel stupidly worked up and actually do what I wanted about it?  I don't even know."
Ells: "That's always been okay with me. It'd take a lot for me to say no to you if you wanted me. I love it when you get like that." He pauses. "It didn't exactly end up being about that."
Kat: "No, it didn't," Josh agrees.  "I am not sure what happened there.  I'm really surprised you were into that.  Like, we've done me riding you before and focusing on getting /you/ off, but..."
Ells: "And I dig that," RJ says quickly, but with feeling. "I do. But...I didn't want it to be about me. I just wanted to watch you use whatever you needed to be satisfied."
Kat: Josh snuggles up against RJ.  "Then maybe it wasn't so different after all.  You wanted me to get what I needed, just like normal.  We just went about it a different way."
Ells: "A really different way," RJ says. "I'm guessing it was okay, since you...said what you did."
Kat: Josh nods.  "It was good.  Not an every time kind of thing, but it was good."
Ells: "I don't think I could be a sex toy all the time anyway. I like fucking you too much."
Kat: Josh laughs.  "And I'm not the one with all the muscles who can actually physically do that every single time."
Ells: "Well," RJ says thoughtfully, "fucking machines are a thing, too. Pretty sure that counts as a heavy duty toy."
Kat: Josh blinks at him.  "Wait, what?"
Ells: RJ feels like this is the first time he's ever actually lost Josh in a conversation instead of the other way around. "What about what?"
Kat: "One second I was saying that I can't ride you every time because I don't have the muscles for it and the next you're talking about fucking machines.  I think I got lost somewhere in there."
Ells: "It's not like I leaped a gap the way you do. Most toys you have to do all the work. Fucking machines can do the work for you."
Kat: "Why would I need a fucking machine, though?" Josh asks, sounding utterly baffled.  "Like, 9/10 times I would much rather have you up in me than be fucked by an inanimate object."
Ells: RJ cracks up. "/That's/ where I lost you." He shakes his head, still laughing. "I wasn't talking about /getting/ you a fucking machine. You said I couldn't be a sex toy all the time because you couldn't ride me all the time. I was making a point that you could use me for that without wearing yourself out."
Kat: "/Oh/," Josh says, cracking up.  "Okay, that makes a lot more sense."  He's too sleepy to even be embarrassed by it not clicking.
Ells: "My god. Like I'd ever get you a fucking machine."
Kat: "I know!" Josh says, still laughing.  "That's why I was so confused.  Like, what?"
Ells: "Although," RJ says, tilting his head and staring up at the ceiling, considering, "with a little magic and a vibrator..."
Kat: "Oh my god," Josh says, burying his face in RJ's shirt.
Ells: "I'm kidding, I'm kidding! ...or am I?"
Kat: "I'm not even sure which I'm rooting for."
Ells: "It sounds like something /you'd/ have thought up, to be honest."
Kat: "I mean, I have thought about it before, just not quite in that context."
Ells: "Could definitely last a lot longer than me."
Kat: "You'd have to do the magick-y stuff," Josh says, "because it's not as fun trying to get off and focus on fucking yourself, too."
Ells: "Who says you're getting off?" RJ asks casually.
Kat: Josh shudders.  "That'd work, too."
Ells: "Thought it might," RJ says, and he sighs contentedly. Good orgasm, a laugh, and the continual planning of future sex....his life is good xD
Kat: "Pencil it onto the list of things we need to do."
Ells: "I'm starting to think that list's never going to get any smaller."
Kat: "That makes me happy."
Ells: "It kind of makes me worry I'm gonna dislocate a hip in a very embarrassing way when we're old."
Kat: "That would be hilarious and awful."

Ells: Both our brains are running off sideways today. I was going to say more and then my brain was like, "You know, RJ's into blowing Josh enough in this 'verse that he'd probably delight in indulging Josh's cock ring curiosity and sucking his dick until Josh can't even /stand/ it anymore."
Kat: Josh wouldn't even be able to think straight he would be so desperate for it to come off and for him to be able to come. He'd go incoherent and grabby and he'd have his eyes squeezed shut, begging for it without even really knowing what's coming out of his mouth, all, "please, please, get it off, RJ, NOW, please"
Ells: And RJ tries to be as quick as he can about it because he has this feeling Josh is pretty much going to come as soon as it's physically possible and he doesn't wanna miss it, wants to get his mouth back on him for the finish
Kat: Josh does come the absolute second that he can physically come, and he just melts into a pile of limbs afterwards. He is insanely sensitive, and he ineffectually tries to pull RJ off his dick before he's all the way through it.
Ells: RJ is a total jerk about it and makes sure Josh is totally spent before he backs off, and because he's been going down on Josh for longer than usual, he's just a mess, swollen lips and sore jaw, and he doesn't even try to talk, just makes his way far enough up the bed to lie down, saving his grin for when
Josh is clear-headed and will see it, because holding it for too long seems like too much for his poor mouth
Kat: Josh is just lying there, all floppy and spent and overwhelmed. "Well that was a lot," he says, having to focus to push the words out of his mouth.
Ells: RJ basically rumbles at him in agreement.
Kat: "Just. Wow."
Ells: "Good wow?" RJ asks carefully, but no matter how careful he is, his voice still gives away just what he's been doing.
Kat: "/Yes/," Josh says as emphatically as he can manage. "Amazing wow."
Ells: RJ gets that little thrill of pride that only comes when he knows he did something /particularly/ over the top. "I would've kept going, but I thought you might cry or something," he says, sounding amused.
Kat: "Could've," Josh says. "It's never happened before, but I could see it happening then."
Ells: "I feel like I should've been timing us."
Kat: "I'm not sure if that would've been funny or embarrassing."
Ells: "Well, it would've given me something to compare to next time."
Kat: "You're melting my brain. This isn't fair."
Ells: "You love it."
Kat: "I'm pretty sure I'd be insane not to love it."
Ells: "I'm not sure you're all that sane anyway."
Kat: "That's true. I did decide to date you."
Ells: "And then you trusted me with this thing," he says, holding up the cock ring for a second. "You're so lucky I'm nice."
Kat: "If you weren't nice, I wouldn't have trusted you with it."
Ells: "Let me rephrase then. You're lucky I decided to /be/ nice, today."
Kat: "Next time, you might not be so nice," Josh says neutrally.
Ells: "I might decide I was going too easy on you the first time."
Kat: "You might."
Ells: "There's something so wrong with you," RJ says, and the grin shines through full-on. "I love it."
Kat: "There's nothing wrong with me," Josh whined.
Ells: "You just agreed that you might've ended up crying," RJ says, "and now you're practically encouraging me to be crueler. Something's definitely broken in there and we are /not/ fixing it."
Kat: Josh grins. "I like it, and it works for both of us. There's nothing crazy about that."
Ells: "Okay. Whatever you say." He coughs a little. "It's funny, you suck a dick for a certain amount of time, you start to feel like it's still in there afterward."
Kat: Josh nods. "Is it weird that I really like the feeling?"
Ells: "Nah. Works out pretty well for me."
Kat: "This works out," Josh says sleepily.
Ells: "You about to go all Rip van Winkle on me?"
Kat: "Quite possibly. Is that okay?"
Ells: "Mm. Go for it. I'll find something else to do."
Kat: "Awe, I'm not allowed to just cling to you?"
Ells: "I was actually, uh. Planning on getting off."
Kat: That's when it slots into place that RJ hasn't yet. "Oh, wow. I feel really stupid."
Ells: (I feel like he probably did just before he started on Josh, but...well. He's still young, yo xD)
Ells: "We're totally even. I wasn't gonna make you jerk me off with your limp noodle arms after that."
Kat: Josh kisses his cheek and gives him a bit of space. "Okay. I still totally would, but we'd be running the risk of me falling asleep with my hand on you, and that's not really probably going to work for either of us."
Ells: "Yeah, no," RJ says, laughing. "I'll manage. Even if it's a little creepy beating off next to someone who's passed out."
Kat: "Eh," Josh says, waving his hand. "Dorm life has gotten me adjusted to that."
Ells: RJ snorts. "Go to sleep."
Kat: Josh grins. "See you in an hour or so."
Ells: RJ leans over and pecks him on the lips. "K."
Kat: "Love you."
Ells: RJ makes a considering face. "I'll say that one's long enough after sex to count. Love you, too."
Kat: Josh laughs. "Have fun getting off."
Ells: "You betcha."
Kat: Josh conks out
Ells: And RJ doesn't bother taking his time jerking off, and when he finishes he scoots closer to Josh to pass out.

Kat: Can you even imagine when they live together? They'll be talking, just casual conversation, and the next, they'll spiral into talking about things they like and then DOING things they like and then talking more about things they like and it will all be really, really kinky and they'll both just roll with it, no questions asked
Ells: Dude, I don't have to imagine. They literally laid there post-Josh riding RJ and playing along like RJ was nothing but a glorified dildo and started talking about RJ using magic to fuck Josh with a vibrator and /not letting him come/ and Josh was just like *shudder* uh-huh yeah that (which, my brain just supplied that it'd be a nice set-up to open Josh up, start him off with the vibrator, and make the rule that he doesn't get to come until /RJ/ fucks him.)
Kat: hgfdfg ooooh, that's good. Josh would like that a lot
Ells: I see this leading to a begging place. It could, at least.
Kat: This could quite feasibly lead to a begging place.
Ells: depending on Josh's level of desperation to get off and RJ's ability to not give in right off the bat.
Kat: I foresee Josh going under from this
Ells: oh wow, really
Kat: Yeah. *nods* He's being magically fucked by a vibrator, and it's a situation where if/when he gets to come is virtually out of his hands. I think it would actually depend a lot on where RJ is when this is all going down. If RJ is sitting further away, then he probably would be on the verge, but wouldn't go under. Any form of concrete, solid contact, even something like RJ's hand on his back or RJ pressing his leg against Josh's and he probably would

Ells: RJ is stupidly turned on by the idea of Josh and Cody fucking around once he starts actually thinking about it. Every time I try thinking about it I just see him being, just...uncontrollably all over Josh, hands grabbing, mouth half-vicious at his neck, sucking and biting, and his brain is this whirl of things he wants to /say/, to /ask/, did you give it to him hard, did you make him feel it, how bad did he want it, because he's so...it's all about Josh being desirable, the idea of him just utterly ruining someone, it burns him up.
Kat: I'm not going to lie, I started thinking about the things Josh would even say to that and my brain got trapped in a wormhole of Josh knowing how to magically cover up the marks that RJ leaves on his neck but wearing them uncovered anyway
Ells: that makes me feel warm in all the emotional places AND the sexy places
Kat: It always gets him both flustered and kind of proud when people stare at them or tease him about them
Ells: it hits RJ the same way /every/ single time, somewhere deep, seeing them still there, contemplating replacing them when they fade, knowing Josh wears them, like he /wants/ everyone to know, that it's not just the two of them, he wants to show off what he lets RJ do to him, wants to show off that he belongs to someone. It's like a fulfilled sense of possessiveness. That he wants Josh, wants everyone to know he has Josh, and he got both of those things
Kat: Josh /does/ want everyone to know. I think early on, it makes him a little squirmy, and he probably gets more than a few side-eyes from profs about it, but he's dating RJ and RJ wants him and Josh isn't afraid of other people seeing that. Josh doesn't want to try and cover up the marks, because Josh likes the way it feels being able to just walk around with marks that RJ put on his neck. Early on, I picture him just kind of sitting in front of the mirror in his dorm room just staring at them and running his hand over them and turning pink thinking about when RJ put them there
Ells: I got re-stuck on RJosh talking about Jody sex, ugh
Kat: *chinhands* Oh?
Ells: Nothing too specific. Just RJ making it difficult for Josh to actually tell him about it, whether he's interrupting or just plain doing his best to make it near impossible for Josh to talk coherently.
Ells: I literally just saw him giving Josh head while Josh tells him about it and Josh goes silent or just breaks off into noises and RJ pulls off and is like, "I didn't tell you to stop."
Kat: Josh is going to have so much difficulty actually focusing on a thought long enough to get it out of his mouth. It's all going to be halting and gasped out and almost incoherent, in places.



Kat: Writing high school AU and reading RJodette has made JIMH ponder threesomes again in the high school AU context. He does that with some frequency.
Ells: It occurred to me, when I was talking about how into talking about and thinking about Jody sex RJ was
Kat: It's kinda been something Josh has wanted a hella lot from all the way back to you talking about RJ and Cody meeting to go over stuff for their sporty dinner thingies and Cody getting flustered.
Ells: I don't think even exactly realized he /wanted/ RJ at that point in time. Like, he knew he got significantly more clumsy and that RJ was very, very goodlooking, but it took him a while to realize it was the kind of clumsy awe that his dick wanted to be involved in, not just fellow sportsman hero worship. I mean, it's entirely feasible I guess, it's just that that shit's like passing a bill into law, you'd have a lot of steps to go through. You gotta figure out how Josh would come at it, and then there's three people to get approval from (I'm not actually sure who is which house of congress and who is the president doing the official signing into law in this idea)
Kat: To be honest, just from the way JIMH has been handling it, and the fact that he's insanely uncomfortable with me mentioning it to you, I don't even know that he would bring it up. Like, by that point, RJosh is all casual kink-y, but when Cody gets involved, I think it feels different for Josh and he isn't quite sure what to do with it
Ells: I'm just saying, if he did figure a way to even kind of obliquely reference the idea....you know, the kind of stuff you say just babbling, 'I wish you could see the face he makes when...' and 'you'd had to have been there' and all, it'd get the idea planted in RJ's head. I don't know that it'd make him go AHA I WANNA BANG THE HUDSON KID but it'd be the idea of getting to /see/ what he's been so wound up about
Ells: I'm laughing because I'm suddenly picturing it the same way they usually portray a girl having two slightly nervous dudes in bed with her, like RJ and Cody are both perfectly fine getting undressed and getting Josh undressed, touching and kissing /him/, but then there's that moment where they're like 'and now /we're/ supposed to....' and just looking at each other and glancing at Josh for guidance xD
Kat: Now, see, that's definitely a thing I can anticipate happening. I can see RJ getting him worked up and having him talk about it and we were talking about how incoherent Josh was when this whole thing is going down, and so I can see the story coming out in fits and spurts, Josh describing one part in extreme detail, the way Cody looked when he first went down on Josh or the way it felt when Josh started fucking into his mouth, but other parts, he can't explain nearly as well, either for lack of coherence or lack of proper descriptive words. And I can see Josh being like, "Ugh, and his face... the come was /everywhere/, shit, RJ, you should've seen it, and he was just looking up at me--"
Kat: Josh wouldn't even know what to do with RJ and Cody both there. He is more used to RJ taking the lead when he's there in a new situation, and with Cody, even though Josh was topping, Cody knew exactly what he wanted out of the situation and he and Josh talked it out so that Josh knew what Cody wanted. He probably feels a little lost
Ells: (also, since I was already getting ahead of myself, /holy god/ since Josh has already been telling RJ stuff, Cody is basically gonna get his first ever real experience being talked about, and it's almost /just/ the right way, because yeah, he and Josh get at it, and they're friends, but RJ and Josh are way tight, really close, and have this way about how they communicate, and just....RJ making comments, being all, "Fuck, look at you," but then going right back to talking to /Josh/ about it, 'I see what you meant about blah blah' or 'you were right, he looks so fucking good when blah blah blah' and dfeujklwkndbhu)
Kat: (and, the brilliant thing, I think, about this situation, is that it hits something for Josh, too. Like, not only is this completely ruining Cody, but it's also a little bit embarrassing but validating for Josh, having RJ talking right in front of Cody about all the things Josh said and all the things Josh liked and all the things that turned Josh on about this situation. RJ is turning Cody on by putting Josh's turn-ons and fantasies and all right out there in the open)
Ells: (nhbowdfnijuw. So basically the only thing we need is for me to get back to the non-parentheses and work out how we go from vague and not actually clearly suggestive of threesome language to RJosh maybe talking about the idea to where it goes from there)
Kat: (Basically) ((also, the house is RJosh, the Senate is Cody, and the President is Colette, because veto power))
Ells: I don't think RJ would actually say anything about it when Josh is babbling at him, half because it takes a little while to germinate, but some little seed gets planted. I'm wondering how Josh would react if RJ asked him is Cody only sees one boy at a time (which I didn't realize is actually pretty vague in itself, he means in a general time period, but it could also be construed as, 'so, threesomes?' xD)
Kat: Josh would kind of stop at that. "I don't actually know. I never hear about more than one at a time, but he very well could."
Ells: "Huh."
Kat: Josh is kind of wondering about where this is even coming from. "Why?"
Ells: RJ shrugs. "I dunno. Just seems like from the way you talk he'd be into getting more than one dick in the situation. One at each end, maybe."
Kat: "/Oh/," Josh says, and, wow, that definitely provides some mental images. "Yeah, I don't... I don't know."
Ells: "You know, I've never done that."
Kat: Josh stares at him, because this is going from hypothetical to maybe not so hypothetical very quickly. "Really?" Josh asks, swallowing.
Ells: "I didn't actually realize until just now. Closest I've ever been is fucking you and Liz on the same day." He laughs.
Kat: "I've never even done that with you and Cody," Josh says. This whole thing is making his face heat up, because now RJ has him actively thinking about the idea that this could even be a thing for more than just like... jerking off to when RJ isn't there.
Ells: "Well, obviously, since you're not usually fucking me," RJ jokes. "But really? Seems like that'd be a good idea."
Kat: "Well, most of the time, when I'm coming to visit you, it takes up a good chunk of my day, and there's all the energy spent skipping back and forth across the country, plus classes and homework and GSA and... most of the time, on days I visit you, I couldn't squeeze Cody in if I wanted to."
Ells: "So it'd take us being in the same place."
Kat: Josh nods, and his voice comes out a little croaky when he says, "Yeah."
Ells: RJ pretends this is the first time he's noticed Josh reacting. "You okay there?"
Kat: Josh looks at RJ, like, really? "I can see where you're taking this. And it might be something that's maybe occurred to me before. More than once."
Ells: "You should've said something," RJ says, as if that should've been obvious.
Kat: "Yeah," Josh agrees, because he should've. RJ wouldn't have judged him about it at all, and they talk openly about these kinds of things basically all the time. "It felt more complicated, though, and uncertain, than stuff with just you and me, and I wasn't sure what to do with it."
Ells: "I think you can probably tell how much I like the idea of you two when you're talking about it. Don't know what could be complicated about that."
Kat: That makes Josh a lot embarrassed. "I don't know. I was being a bit stupid."
Ells: "Hey, no way. That's not how I meant it. Just, I bet we'd both have gotten off on it if you'd brought it up when we were already in the middle of something. Easy."
Kat: The uncomfortable feeling building up in Josh's gut eases some. "Probably, yeah."
Ells: "So, when you say it occurred to you..."
Kat: "Might've gotten off to it more than a couple of times."
Ells: RJ smirks. "Yeah? What were you thinking about?"
Kat: "You fucking him and me watching, not getting to come until he did. Or me fucking his mouth and you fucking his ass." Josh pinks up. "Or... a couple different permutations with me in the middle,"
Ells: RJ just turns that over in his head for a bit. "I could get behind that," he says, and then after a pause, "literally, I guess."
Kat: Josh really needs to be touching him somehow, because this is more than he can handle otherwise. He snuggles up to RJ and leans his head on RJ's shoulder. "Yeah?"
Ells: RJ's body just kind of instinctively accepts Josh and adjusts around him. "Yeah. I mean, you two are obviously getting up to something good. The more you talk about it, the more I wanna check it out. I wouldn't be complaining if that got me laid, too."
Kat: "I'd have to talk to Cody about it, and he'd have to talk to Colette about it."
Ells: RJ makes a considering noise, shrugging a little. "I'm not as worried about it actually happening as you admitting you've been thinking about it."
Kat: "To be honest with you, admitting it to you wasn't as scary as admitting it to Cody is going to be. I think all along I was scared you'd seriously consider it and that I'd then have to go and ask Cody about it. Which, like, it shouldn't be a big deal, really, but still."
Ells: "I mean, didn't it kind of get passed through Colette when you two started up? Would that be easier for you?"
Kat: "Probably. But, like... I feel like it's something I should talk to Cody about first. It would be easier, but it would also feel like chickening out. He's the one who would be threesome-ing with us, so I should be able to ask him if it's something he's comfortable with and into."
Ells: RJ laughs at 'threesome-ing'. "I can't guess about whether he'll actually want to /do/ it, but I can pretty much guarantee he's thought about it."
Kat: "It's kind of hard not to," Josh says. "I mean, he was into you, and he's clearly into me, and we're even more obviously into each other."
Ells: "So the only missing connection was whether I was into him."
Kat: "The way I see it, yeah."
Ells: "Hmmm."
Kat: "I'll talk to him," Josh decides, "and I'll let you know how it goes."
Ells: "You sure? I mean, it's just....it's whatever. If it's gonna be hard for you..."
Kat: "It's just a little scary," Josh says certainly. "The only part about it that's going to be hard is making the leap. If I focus on the fact that, even if things go badly, Cody and I probably aren't going to be awkward or anything anyway, then I should be fine."
Ells: "I feel like for anybody else, this might be a weird conversation."
Kat: "Probably," Josh agreed. "I like that it isn't for us."
Ells: "Hardly anything is weird with us at this point," RJ points out.
Kat: Josh grins. "Sometimes I have to laugh, because my weird threshold is very, very high thanks to us
Ells: "It's nicer this way. Better to get a few weird looks at times than to be any different than we are now."
Kat: Josh moves his head enough to kiss RJ's cheek. "I agree. This works for us."
Ells: RJ sighs happily, because the fact that that's true never fails to just....make him realize how lucky he is. He knows being separated so much kind of sucks, and that there could've been better circumstances, but these are the circumstances, and he'd much rather have these with Josh than perfect ones with someone else. "I think we could pretty much make anything work for us."

Kat: So Josh probably brings it up when he and Cody are hanging out in a non-sexy capacity, because he figures that this is one of those things you talk about with clothes on. And so he and Cody are probably just hanging out and Josh is like, "Er, so, I have to talk to you. About something important."
Ells: Cody side-eyes him hard. "Uh...this can't be good."
Kat: "That actually depends a lot. On how... open to this you are."
Ells: I think Cody is a little bug-eyed, because I'm pretty sure he thinks that Josh is either about to ask him for a super weird sex thing or try to make this about more than about sex. "Open?"
Kat: "Right." Josh takes a second to collect himself, but just ends up blurting out, "On a scale from 1-10, how weird would it be if I said that RJ and I are open to the possibility of having a threesome with you? And on a scale from 1-10, how open to that are you?"
Ells: Cody just sits there for a second, because he doesn't know how to go about putting a number on things like that, that's more how Josh functions than him. "On a scale of one to ten," he says slowly, turning it around on Josh, "how aware are you that your boyfriend was pretty much my first big gay crush?"
Kat: "That'd be a ten," Josh says easily.
Ells: "Okay," Cody says, and he looks mildly embarrassed, more about admitting that one out loud to someone other than Colette than anything. "I don't...think it's weird you two have talked about it. Other than maybe the idea that he...he wants anything to do with me."
Kat: "He's just as into the idea as I am," Josh tells him. "I talk to him about what goes down with you, just like you do with Colette. Or, well, not /just like/, probably, but you get what I'm saying. He's full steam ahead on the threesome with Cody idea."
Ells: Cody's more pleased than embarrassed this time at the idea of him being worthy of a report back to the boyfriend. "Wow. So, okay, we're talking....full...participation? All three of us?"
Kat: Josh nods. "Yup. At least, that was the way RJ and I discussed it."
Ells: "I could go for that. I mean, I have to check in about it, but Colette knows....well. She just knows."
Kat: "Right," Josh says, smiling. "And if Colette clears it, and we go ahead with it, then, if you wanted, the three of us could meet ahead of time to discuss what everyone wants from it. Or, you know, we could just wing it. Whatever works."
Ells: Cody shrugs a little. "I've gotten better at talking about stuff like this but...I'm not sure I say I could anything like that to his face with clothes on." He finally goes red at that. (!!!! I love that he's more embarrassed about having always been into RJ than he is about /literally anything else about the situation/ omg)
Kat: Josh has to try so hard not to laugh. "I understand what you mean. It took me ages to even get to the point where I could discuss those sorts of things when both of us had our clothes /off/. He already knows the kind of stuff we usually do, though, anyway, and I've told him most of the stuff you've laid out in the beginning, so we should be good there."
Ells: (obviously they won't be discussing repeats until the first time has happened right? So the attitude on cody's end is 'better get what you want while you can' and my brain supplied him moving to suck RJ off and RJ's just like 'nope' and points him at Josh instead 'if you want to keep your mouth busy' and Cody is 100% up for that, RJ fucking him, and he loves blowing Josh, but he turns back around to RJ and is like 'can I at least get you wet?' because jesus h does he want that dick in his fucking /throat/)
Ells: Cody feels a little less embarrassed knowing Josh isn't immune to the RJ effect. "That's...that's good." He pauses, opens his mouth, and shuts it again, looking uncertain.
Kat: "Share?" Josh just says. "No judgment, promise."
Ells: 'I was just....going to ask. If he lives up to all the..." He gestures vaguely.
Ells: (I just realized that if he really wanted to go down on both of them, he could suck RJ while Josh opens him up and then swap around. RJ has the staying power to survive that, I think.)
Kat: "He definitely lives up to the hype," Josh says, grinning, "with the exception of the rumors of him being like... ten inches long, or whatever. He's not huge, he just knows how to use what he's got."
Ells: (I have all these emotions about Cody figuring shit out for himself this early in life because I was imagining RJ kind of getting him by the hair and being like, "Can I?" and Cody pulls off, nodding fervently and licking his lips, and he's like, "I'll tap out if I need to," and taps at RJ's hip firmly with two fingers, and I was like HE HAS DEVELOPED SIGNALS. AT SOME POINT SOMEONE WAS SO WORRIED ABOUT WHETHER HE COULD REALLY STAY DOWN THAT LONG AND HE /DEVELOPED A SIGNAL/ i fucking can't)
Ells: "I can work with that," Cody says simply. "I figured he had to be good since you..." (I'm not even sure if he means 'since you're so into him' or 'since you learned from him' or both xD)
Kat: "Since I skip halfway across the country at least once a week for it?" Josh teases.
Ells: "That," Cody says firmly, nodding. "I mean, being in love with him aside."
Kat: "The being stupidly in love with him part is pretty important," Josh says, a stupid, dopey smile lighting up his face, "but, yeah. The sex is /awesome/."
Ells: "I know that feeling," Cody agrees, smiling.
Kat: "I figured you did."
Ells: Cody almost wishes he had a phone in that moment, so he could just text a bunch of exclamation points to Colette, now that he's thinking about her. "You've never mentioned the two of you doing something like this before."
Kat: "Neither of us ever has," Josh tells him, "and I didn't think you had, but I wasn't sure. So, potentially new experience for everyone?"
Ells: Cody nods. "Only threesomes I ever get offered involve Colette, and she's turned all of them down so far."
Kat: "That seems reasonable," Josh says. "So definitely new experiences for everyone, then, as long as Colette okays it."
Ells: "I could probably have a yes in about forty-five seconds if you'd let me use your phone." Cody laughs.
Kat: Josh pulls it out of his pocket and hands it over. "Have at it. You'll even get spared the 'you really need a phone' lecture."
Ells: Cody rolls his eyes. "Stuff like this doesn't happen every day. We live on the same campus, if I need her that bad I can find her." He has to poke at the phone a bit before he finds Josh's contacts and can dial Colette.
Kat: Josh wants to respond, but by that time, Cody's already on the phone, and Josh isn't going to interrupt.
Ells: Colette picks up all, "Hi, Josh!" and Cody's like, "Try again," and she's like, "Oh, hey, what's wrong?" because Cody hates phones and Cody's like, "I just received a threesome invitation," and she sighs at him and is halfway through saying he /knows/ she doesn't do that when he says, "Not with you." She goes quiet for a second because Cody's only ever dealing with one boy at a time and the current boy is Josh and that means.... Cody knows she's working it out on the other end of the line and smiles. "So?" "Just so we're clear...Josh and RJ?" "Got it in one." She squeals loudly and he holds the phone away from his ear for a second. "Do that /later/," he says emphatically, when he puts it back. "I'm sorry, I'm excited!" "So..." "Pretend I'm not sure. Tell Josh I'm going to text him." "O-" The call goes quiet and Cody looks at the phone. "She hung up on me."
Kat: Josh laughs. "So that was loud."
Ells: "I don't think she knows it was quite that loud. She said she was going to text you and to say she wasn't sure, but....I mean, you heard her doing her dog whistle impression."
Kat: "We'll let her have her fun anyway?" Josh says, and he's just... everything is light and happy inside him right now, and all the nerves that had been building up over it are gone.
Ells: "I think she just wants to be able to tell you herself," Cody says, and Josh's phone buzzes in his hand. "Which, here." He hands it back over. The text from Colette is just '!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!' because yeah, C&C are pretty much one person on some levels xD
Kat: Josh shows it to Cody and just laughs for a second. "i'm guessing that''s a yes????" he texts her back
Ells: Cody scrunches up his eyes and laughs, because all the people he likes best are /ridiculous/. Colette sends 'ofc WHY WOULD I SAY NO this is like xmas and his birthday coming at once'
Kat: 'dude I knew that but TALKING TO HIM ABOUT IT WAS KIND OF TERRIFYING YOU HAVE NO IDEA. but oh my god this is actually happening then holy shit. i am going to have to pay RJ a visit tonight'
Ells: 'you are going to wear yourself out doing that all the time, be careful. But yes!! I can't believe you even asked! What's gotten into RJ??'
Kat: 'worrywart. i'll be fine, colette. besides, if we can work out me spending the night there, then it'll be even less of an issue. ANYWAY I ACTUALLY WAS NOT THE ONE WHO ASKED. HE BROUGHT IT UP and then i might've maybe admitted that it was definitely a thing i was super interested in. but, like, rj and i talk.' Josh turns to Cody. "By the way, we should work out scheduling stuff."
Ells: 'SOMEBODY has to worry about you joshie since apparently all your boyfriend does is INITIATE THREESOMES' Cody nods at him, because he's already trying to work out a time he's not busy that might work for them all. "Details," he says, wrinkling his nose.
Kat: 'that isn't ALL he does, but apparently it is a thing he does ahhhhhhh' "I have a chart with RJ and my combined schedules on my phone, if it would help."

Ells: I just. Fucking spitroast xD not to mention it sets it up perfectly for RJ and Josh to see each other/communicate well
Kat: Just... have I told you this is perfect? because this is perfect
Ells: I feel like this is a bizarre-ass bonding experience. 'Know what would make us closer? Let's bang somebody together.'
Kat: (hgfeedfgb this /is/ RJosh. So far their major bonding experiences have been "let's have you meet my parents when we've been dating like less than a month" and "let's have you always naked" and "let's both sleep with someone else when we can't be together"... like, they don't exactly have normal bonding experiences
Ells: at least this one gets Cody the time of his life xD poor boy's gonna be ruined for anything else once he's had everything at once. I mean, hell, I'd probably be ruined from far less than that. As soon as RJ and Josh were naked and laying hands on one another in my presence I'd be like 'nope done this is all I want for the rest of ever' xD
Kat: I don't know how one goes about life like things are normal after having that.
Ells: the first step is acknowledging that you're never going to get something that good again
Kat: but, depending, he might
Ells: ?? I mean, yeah, he might end up with someone Colette finally says yes to and he might get to be surrounded by two people he /loves/, but on a pure sexual dynamics level? Nah. How would you go about getting better than RJosh?
Kat: Oh, no, I meant, he actually might get RJosh again, depending xD
Ells: ohhh, well, yeah, I was betting on that, I was talking about after they're done with that
Kat: xD Then, yeah, no. He's not going to get better than that
Ells: I have a feeling they're gonna have at least a couple more rounds and poor Cody, when they're done, is still gonna be left with stuff they /could've/ done
Kat: Poor Cody. I think that if they go for a couple more rounds, then Josh probably gets his fill. He knows what it's like and he's experienced it and it was stupidly hot but it's not something that's stuck in his head the same way
Ells: I can just imagine him lying in bed with Colette, talking mostly to the ceiling, like, "I could've taken them both at once. I know I could have."
Kat: Oh my god
Ells: I feel like Colette in this situation, I just wanna pet him and be like, "I know, baby, I know you could've, you'd have been so good." xD
Kat: What all even do you think they get up to? Besides the mouth and ass fucking
Ells: well, I mean, we can't just put those three in one place without RJ fucking Josh fucking Cody, it'd be a hell of a waste. I think RJ also remembers Josh telling him about getting off thinking about it, remembers Josh mentioning RJ fucking Cody while Josh watches. I have this straight-out-of-porno image of RJ managing to set it up so he can fuck Cody from behind mostly upright on the bed, both of them on their knees, all out in the open with both of them facing Josh. But knowing RJ, he's not gonna let Josh just lean back and rub one out while he watches. He'd probably try and get Josh to call the shots...where should I touch him, how hard or deep or fast or slow should I fuck him, should I make him work for it, yada yada
Kat: Absolutely yes. At the beginning, Josh would drag it out, get Cody begging and desperate and not giving him anything big, just having RJ take his time and work him up. Telling RJ to play with Cody's nipples, but not letting him mess around there long, so Cody gets keyed up without getting to a point where it could begin to feel like enough. Have RJ fuck him slowly and shallowly at first, so that it's not NEARLY enough for Cody and Cody keeps trying to fuck himself on RJ. Just... josh makes the most of this. xD Especially if they stick to the original plan that Josh proposed and he can't get off until Cody does. Josh isn't going to make this easy on himself, either
Ells: I love the way your brain works because while I was waiting for you to say something, I was imagining RJ fucking Cody really shallow, never giving him much of anything and Cody just going crazy with it, needing more, and all of a sudden my brain did that thing it does and RJ was right in his ear rumbling, "You want it?", teasing just a /little/ further, and Cody nodding wordlessly, moaning, and RJ's like, "Then ride it," and stops holding him still and dxnwldnbhwyiw
Kat: THAT IS WHERE MY BRAIN WAS GOING WITH THIS, TOO! It eventually turned into Cody having to work for it and riding RJ
Ells: Oh my god I just had the most ridiculous moment where I realized RJ's the one fucking him so Cody is gonna be trying to get /him/ to go deeper and harder, when he starts begging it's at RJ, and RJ reminding him that it's not up to him, he needs to be convincing Josh and I just. *slithers down the couch* Poor Cody's gonna be so fucking hoarse when this is over with
Kat: I just realized that Josh is going to be cuddly with Cody afterwards, too, basically always. I think post-sex cuddles is just a universal thing with Josh
Ells: I am in fits imagining the way they're gonna look together. Cody's /fit/, obviously, toned like crazy, but he's /little/ and he always will be, he has this little waist and he's shorter and paler and fucking /blonde/ and smooth-faced all up against RJ's college baseball muscles and huge hands and stubble and *yells*
Kat: I can see Josh making a point of that. Some sort of comment, like look how little he is, how one of your hands covers his entire chest. You aren't even breaking a sweat lifting him around like that, are you?
Ells: *yell turns into a screech* god, Cody is gonna be so red and it's hard to tell whether it's sex flush or embarrassment and really it's fucking both because that's humiliating but /fuck/, he /feels/ small against RJ and he /likes/ it
Kat: Josh likes it a lot. And, also, like, RJ and Josh are roughly the same size, right? Josh is a little bit shorter, and RJ is just bigger, all-around, but comparatively, Cody is /little/ (he's only an inch taller than me), and RJ can manhandle Josh easily because there's not much bulk to Josh, but watching RJ just move Cody around the way he wants to gets to Josh a lot
Ells: I just. This was a good idea yo
Kat: Of course it was xD It was a brilliant idea

Main Canon RJosh

Ells: I can just fucking see him saying something to that effect in an interview, and having it be something he's never said quite so explicitly or seriously TO josh
Kat: and Josh watches all his interviews online and has his google news page bookmarked
Ells: Well, that's how he hears it then. That's how that happens. Y'know, "We know you've got a boyfriend but there's a lot of buzz about how that's not /quite/ off the market. Any plans to settle down?" "Oh, I'm never going to /settle down/. *big smarmy laugh* But off the market, definitely. Josh is it for me, I'm done."
Kat: jrrtdbhtnydhrgxtnhgsrehbgefvdsbg Josh sees it and he just stares at his computer for a bit and he immediately texts RJ all "!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Ells: Which I imagine RJ is used to by now, he usually just sends back a couple question marks if he's busy but when he's not he immediately calls Josh because he gets a huge kick out of talking to Josh JUST when he's begun to flip about something, it's hilarious and amazing all at once. So yeah, he calls him and is just like, "What this time?"
Kat: "You. Video. That... what."
Ells: RJ is trying to figure out what he possibly could've done lately that would merit this reaction. "My sex tape didn't leak, did it?"
Kat: "You said I was it, RJ."
Ells: "I what?"
Kat: "I just saw a video and you said you were off the market, that I was it."
Ells: "....well yeah. Of course I'm off the market. I thought we were pretty clear I wasn't fucking around with anyone. Kind of a big part of our relationship, in fact."
Kat: Josh shakes his head, but RJ can't see him. "No, no no no, obviously. Like, you not fucking around is something we agreed on. But... I've never heard you say it that way. That I was it for you."
Ells: "Oh. And that's not something we agreed on. I get it. I'll say something else next time."
Kat: "NO," Josh blurts out immediately, "No. You... can say that. It made me happy that you said that."
Ells: It starts to dawn on RJ that this a /positive/ flip-out. It's hard to tell at times. He laughs. "/Oh/. Oh shit, was I accidentally romantic? I'm gonna have to leave dirty socks on your pillow to get my manhood back, fuck."
Kat: "You were so accidentally romantic. Even dirty socks can't fix this."
Ells: RJ is glad he's not surrounded by alpha males who could rag him about this conversation, because his smile is a lot softer and fonder than it should be. He's glad Josh can't see. "Well, damn, I'll have to get creative. I forgot I said that. It didn't seem that out of the ordinary."
Kat: "That makes it even better."
Ells: "I'm not sure why it deserved fifteen exclamation points, anyway."
Kat: "Because it's exciting and wonderful and brilliant."
Ells: "It's not anything new, Josh. I just /said it/ a different way than usual."
Kat: "And that new way of saying it kind of means something different than just you not sleeping with other people while you're with me."
Ells: RJ is shaking his head like Josh is missing something really fucking obvious. "Josh, I /do/ say I love you sometimes, you know. It's the same thing. For me, at least."
Kat: Josh is quiet for a second. "Are you somewhere where I can skip in?"
Ells: "Uh, I'm in the lobby right now? I'll be up in a second though, it's the hotel and room number I texted you this morning."
Kat: "I'm going to go ahead and skip over there."
Ells: "Cool." It's totally even as usual, but not as bright or dirty-sounding as it is when he's expecting a straight-up 'ooh, we've got time' booty call. He was in line to talk to someone at the desk but he says fuck it and heads into the elevator instead xD
Kat: Josh skips over and it takes him a couple of minutes, because he wants to save his energy for when he actually gets there.
Ells: RJ's probably just inside the door getting his shoes off and shit.
Kat: Josh practically tackles him and kisses him, "Hi."
Ells: "Whoa!" and he's laughing as he says it, trying to keep both of them upright and stable. "Hey."
Kat: "Hiya. I love you."
Ells: "Is that right? Had no idea."
Kat: "I love you, I love you, I love you." He kisses him after every I love you.
Ells: RJ catches him around the back of the neck on that last kiss and gives Josh a for-real kiss, thorough and only just a little dirty, mostly because he can't help himself. "You going for a record? I love you, too."
Kat: Josh beams and wraps his arms around RJ, "You're brilliant and I really want you to fuck me."
Ells: RJ rolls his eyes and slumps a little under Josh's arms, looking put-upon. "The things I do for you."
Kat: "Yeah, yeah, it's such a chore," Josh teases and swats him.
Ells: "I am a /very/ busy man," he says, but he's already kind of swaying his bottom half forward into Josh, not hard or anything yet but definitely giving away intent.
Kat: Josh kisses him again, "So then let's get busy." It's not one of his better lines but he really does not care
Ells: RJ actually outright groans. "Sometimes I cannot believe I want to fuck you when you say shit like that." He kisses him hard. "There's something wrong with me."
Kat: "Quite possibly," Josh agrees, "After all, the fucking should already be happening."
Ells: "Not unless you opened yourself up before you got here. Which, by the way, not a fucking bad idea."
Kat: "Damn, should've thought of that."
Ells: "Sounds like it's going to be a while before you get fucked."
Kat: Josh sighs, "Well, clothes off. That can at least happen soon."
Ells: (I'm actually kind of amused at RJ and how much he'd probably dig that, knowing Josh wanted it enough that he'd get his own fingers inside, pry himself open so the minute RJ walked through the door he could be on him, /in/ him)
Kat: (Josh probably totally does that sometime. He meets him in RJ's hotel room and he'd have himself naked and opened up on RJ's bed)
Ells: (mnhhhhhhh yes, the yes: all of it)
Ells: Anyway, RJ whole-heartedly agrees and starts trying to get Josh out of his clothes.
Kat: Josh helps him out, naturally
Ells: RJ's not worried about his clothes at all at the moment, just Josh's, so he gets Josh naked, hands and mouth all over the whole time. The rest of his day is free, so he's allowed to actually pay attention and enjoy, which i don't think happens quite as often as he'd like.
Kat: Josh tugs at his shirt, but isn't really adamant about it. If RJ wants to take his time, Josh isn't going to complain
Ells: RJ puts his hands over Josh's. "You want this off?"
Kat: "Mmhm."
Ells: "Why?"
Kat: "Because I like to see you naked," Josh says, like it's obvious
Ells: "Hmm. Good enough for me." He takes his hands off Josh's and puts them above his head.
Kat: Josh tugs RJ's shirt over his head. as soon as it's on the floor, he's running his hands down RJ's chest, because abbbbbbbbbbbs
Ells: RJ never stops enjoying that, really. He was a little under the impression that Josh wouldn't /care/ anymore at some point, that he'd be over it, which would /suck/ because that's half his enjoyment in life, man, getting a reaction. Anyway, he's not going anywhere, Josh can do what he wants, it's Josh that wants this moved forward.
Kat: Josh just runs his hands over for a while, kissing RJ. Somehow, with RJ's shirt off, things don't seem quite so rushed and desperate. "Pants off, too?"
Ells: "Sure." He reaches down and undoes the button and zip one-handed, because that is part of his skill set. Now that they're back at kissing he doesn't want to spare that much attention to technical details xD
Kat: "I love that you can do that."
Ells: "Had a lot of practice." His pants are a bit tight, so it takes a little shoving to get them down far enough that they fall the rest of the way and he can kick out of them.
Kat: "Underwear."
Ells: "What about 'em?" He has gotten a little off-track from kissing in favor of mouthing at Josh's jaw, not quite wandering to his neck yet.
Kat: "Off?"
Ells: He pauses like he's considering it, mouth still open, hovering over Josh's skin. "I dunno."
Kat: "You don't?" Josh asks, a little bit squirmy
Ells: "Why should I get my cock out before I can fuck you with it?"
Kat: "Mine is out," Josh points out
Ells: "Coincidence." He runs his fingers down Josh's spine and over his ass before he squeezes at it. "Needed to get at this."
Kat: Josh's skin tingles, and he shivers as RJ runs his finger down his back. "That's a valid point."
Ells: "Everything I need to use right now is out." He does something probably really suggestive against Josh's neck with his tongue and slides his hand so he can rub a finger against Josh's hole.
Kat: "I came over to tell you how wonderful you are and you're spoiling /me/," Josh gets out, his hips pushing backwards to try to get RJ's finger closer to being in him
Ells: "You got a better idea?" His finger moves with Josh so it stays just a tease.
Kat: "No," Josh admits, "I like this much better."
Ells: RJ nips at the spot he just had his tongue on, and grins. "Thought so. But unless you want to do this on the floor or against the wall..." ((also kicking him for saying that because I can just imagine him telling Josh to spread his legs and put his hands on the wall, probably nudge his feet farther apart before he get down on his knees behind him to eat him out, seeing how much he can take before his legs start to give out))
Kat: "Wouldn't mind the floor or wall."
Ells: RJ's eyebrows dart up and he pulls back to look at Josh. "Yeah?"
Kat: "Yeah," Josh breathes out. "Yup."
Ells: RJ's grin goes positively wicked and he takes his hand away from Josh's ass, gets both of his wrapped around Josh's wrists and pulls him along while he backs them toward the wall. Then he lets go and slips around Josh, behind him, reaching for his wrists again and planting Josh's hands against the wall. He knocks at the inside of Josh's ankle with his foot. "Spread 'em."
Kat: Josh lets RJ manhandle him into place. Even if RJ's hands weren't still there, pressing his against the wall, he'd keep his hands and wrists exactly where RJ positioned them as he spreads his legs wide for RJ.
Ells: RJ kisses at the back of his neck, like a reward for doing what he asked so easily. He doesn't actually take his hands off Josh, just runs them up his arms and then down his sides as he slides down onto his knees behind Josh. He splays his hands across Josh's ass and uses his thumbs to spread his cheeks even farther and pauses, just looking, makes a low noise at the sight. (the more of this I write the more I think it's been a bit since he's been able to do this like he wants, like they've been eager to get to getting Josh open on his fingers so they'll have time to fuck, or even just getting each other off half-clothed and rushed, handjobs and blowjobs, whatever they can manage. Feels like a busy time.)
Kat: "Oh god," Josh says quietly, because he's getting goosebumps just with RJ behind him, touching him like that. When he spreads Josh all open for him, Josh knows where this is going, and he can already feel his body settling into place, like it knows something really good is coming and needs time to prepare.
Ells: RJ doesn't even really know what the fuck he wants to do first, but he's not getting any of it just looking, so he drags the flat of his tongue from just behind Josh's balls all the way up to the crack of his ass in one long, slow sweep, pauses to see the shiny trails he's left there, and does it again, firmer this time, and stopping at Josh's hole to lap over it because fuck all that lead-up
Kat: "Fuck," Josh says, and he's already having to recenter himself so more of his weight is helping him stay positioned against the wall. He figures that if he works out the best position early on, he won't have to deal with it as much later, when his mental capacity's in a different place.
Ells: RJ slides one hand down to squeeze at the back of Josh's thigh. "Okay?"
Kat: "Pretty sure there's not much that could make me more okay right now."
Ells: RJ resituates one hand so he can spread Josh decently well with just it and then reaches the other around to wrap around Josh's cock while he leans back in to lick at him some more, just to try and make him eat his own words xD
Kat: "You're--" Josh cuts off when RJ's big, warm hand goes around his dick, "--totally planning on making it so I can't support my own weight, aren't you?"
Ells: RJ laugh against him, hot huffs of air. "If you wanna just get on your hands and knees, come on, but I think you can do better than that." He licks around the rim of Josh's hole, points his tongue to trace around it before he goes back to just lapping over it, making sure he's all wet.
Kat: "I can do better," Josh agrees, though his arms are already getting a bit uncomfortable from bracing against the wall. Luckily, when RJ actually starting to do something, he's focusing less on that and more on RJ's tongue
Ells: RJ mumbles something into Josh, probably an agreement or encouragement, but it's totally useless because he's not gonna move far enough from Josh's ass to be understood. He spends a little more time licking and sucking at the rim and his other hand starts making long, slow pulls at Josh's cock, not even fast enough to really be anything near jerking him off.
Kat: "I'm dating a terrible tease," Josh says, and he means for it to come out indignant, but it sounds incredibly fond. Josh wants to buck into getting something more, but he can't figure out whether he wants to go back on RJ's tongue or forward into RJ's hand, so he just whines and stays still all indecisively
Ells: RJ makes the most satisfied little hum, glad Josh knows just what he's managed to get himself in for (and for the long haul, too, since he seems so eager about RJ saying he's /it/), and then pushes his tongue right in. He figures he's allowed to go all in and do what he wants and still count as teasing if he keeps it up the way he is with Josh's dick, and he really just wants to fuck Josh with his tongue right now.
Kat: Josh is surprised by the abruptness of RJ pushing in, and he unintentionally jerks back against RJ's tongue, driving it in deeper.
Ells: RJ just rolls with it, if Josh wants him that deep then that's what he'll do. For a second he just presses in like that, deep as he can go, and then he slowly drags his tongue out, all the way, before he pushes it back in.
Kat: Josh takes a deep breath, and it's taking a lot of focus not to just lean against the wall. As it is, his eyes are closed, and he's having issues not having his hips
Ells: RJ is starting to get into this, and it's odd because doing it this way means he really can't do anything /but/ use his mouth, both his hands are occupied, and that actually reeeeally suits him, he feels like he can just enjoy this as much as he wants without feeling like he should be doing anything else. He likes teasing usually, but teasing is usually a lot for Josh's benefit and this is more for his, just getting in deep and enjoying himself.
Kat: Josh's legs are starting to wobble a bit, and his breathing hitches every time RJ plunges his tongue in deep. "I love you," Josh repeats
Ells: RJ pulls back, hand moving a little faster on Josh's dick once he's not coordinating two things at once. "Doesn't count," he says."
Kat: "Does too count."
Ells: "You love my tongue in your ass. Not the same thing." He works his tongue back in to make his point, just inside, swirling it around.
Kat: "I love both," Josh insists, and his legs aren't going to hold out much longer. RJ is literally tongue-fucking him into the ground.
Ells: RJ's definitely not going to stop until Josh says uncle (or collapses xD) or comes. He tries to keep up the quicker pace he started using on Josh's cock even as he goes back to eating him out, and he can tell Josh is getting pushed toward his limit holding himself up but he's sure as hell going to enjoy it until Josh tells him to stop
Kat: Josh'd rather collapse than tell RJ to stop, because this is absolutely one of his favorite things. He's given up bracing himself against the wall, like he was trying to do earlier, and most of the front of him is now pressed against the wall. He's sweating against the wall a bit, but he's not all that concerned with it
Ells: RJ barely notices that Josh has kind of changed positioning. He's absolutely in his zone and unless he starts not being able to jerk Josh off probably he's not likely to really notice at all. Normally he's so focused that he doesn't pay a lot of attention to himself but he's acutely aware of being really fucking hard, but doing this is the best way of satisfying that for him, right now. Getting off will happen, but getting to be just a total glutton is all he could ask for at the moment.
Kat: "Gonna end up on my knees soon," Josh mumbles from against the wall, because he feels fuzzy and he knows that his arms are going to kill him later but it doesn't even bother him in the slightest. He's pretty sure nothing could bother him right now, because he hasn't had this in ages, RJ just going at his hole like nothing else (but his cock) is important.
Ells: RJ moves back and looks up, sees that Josh is kinda plastered against the wall, and takes a deep breath to try and pull himself back a little. "Come on, then. I don't want you to fall."
Kat: "Yeah," he says. He takes a shaky breath and lowers himself down to his hands and knees. Everything is slow, like he's moving through syrup, but he's not falling over, so at least his balance is mostly intact.
Ells: RJ takes a minute to put his hands over Josh, making sure he's alright. I don't think he consciously knows he's being all gooey and protective but yeah, he checks him over before he gets back to where he was. He doesn't have to hold Josh open so much this way, which he likes, and he doesn't have to worry if Josh is just about to give out. I think he gets a lot more eager, then, faster and hungrier instead of the thorough, deep way he's been going at it. It takes him a minute to remember that he'd been jerking Josh off and get back to that.
Kat: RJ checking him out to make sure he's okay makes Josh feel even warmer and fuzzier, because it compounds the ridiculous, fond feelings that led to Josh skipping over there on short notice in the first place. He isn't even thinking about getting off, and when RJ's hand wraps around him again, it almost surprises him, jerks him back into wanting RJ inside him and not being able to express how desperately he wants it.
Ells: I think RJ is probably getting to the point that he knows he's either gonna have to see this through and get Josh off and just hope he'll still be up for and enjoy getting fucked, or it needs to move forward. He licks up and presses a kiss to the small of Josh's back. "I think I remember you saying something about you wanting me to fuck you, yeah?"
Kat: "Yeah," Josh says, "yes please."
Ells: RJ grins and presses another kiss, this time right over Josh's hole, and he actually makes the effort to magic lube and condoms over because he doesn't want to go anywhere. He slicks his fingers up and pushes two right in because Josh can usually take that right off anyway and he's nice and pliant from being eaten out.
Kat: Before long, Josh is pushing back into RJ's hands and telling him he needs more
Ells: He's happy to give Josh another finger, of course, and after a minute he's pulling them out and getting his underwear shoved down far enough that they're not in the way and rolling the condom on. "We good?" he asks, after he's slicked himself up and he's pressing the head against Josh's hole, waiting.
Kat: "We're good," Josh confirms, and he barely bites back a "now hurry up"
Ells: He takes a second to make sure he's in a good position and then he slides in really slowly, making sure he feels every bit of it, until he bottoms out. He kind of wants to stop and enjoy it, but he can kind of feel Josh's impatience, so he takes another couple slow thrusts like that, warming up.
Kat: Josh moans, because it isn't fast, but it's very deep, and right now, that's doing it for him. "Thank god."
Ells: Normally RJ would laugh, but they've both needed this for so long that he just rolls his hips into Josh a little harder and says, "Yeah," voice a little strangled. "'Bout time."
Kat: "Yeah. Still completely up for picking being a part-time RJ sex slave instead of having to do that work-y stuff," Josh rambles, "because then we'd both get this all the time, and I could be like Julia Roberts."
Ells: That time RJ /does/ laugh. "You'd make a terrible kept boy. You'd be so bored. And you'd do things like make me think about Julia Roberts during sex."
Kat: Josh gets out a little breathless giggle, "I'd make up for it with blowjobs? And it'd only be part time, so when you were off doing baseball-y stuff or on my off hours, I could be at class or at home and be bored there, and when you weren't fucking my brains out, I could lie around without much clothing on and research dirigibles on my phone."
Ells: "That sounds a lot like what you do already, Josh."
Kat: Josh blinks, "But if it were a job, I'd get paid, and I'd never have to reduce my being fucked hours when I actually have to start working."
Ells: RJ pushes in deep as he can go and just sort of leans up, covering Josh with his whole body, and holds there. "If I pay you to fuck me, that makes you a whore," he says, voice totally neutral.
Kat: "But just for you?" Josh offers, because he wasn't actually ever seriously considering this, and RJ neutral tones always freak him out a little, and he shouldn't be freaking out when RJ is fucking him. That shouldn't be a thing.
Ells: "Hmm." RJ goes back to fucking Josh. "I have the money, but I like it better like this. I don't have to give you a thing to get you on your knees."
Kat: "That's true," Josh says, "and it's more fun that way. Plus, I don't think whores are supposed to say I love you a lot."
Ells: "I don't think they're supposed to talk this much, either, if it's not filthy." Josh being so coherent obviously means he's not doing something right.
Kat: "Good thing I'm not one, then."
Ells: "Not for pay at least." RJ readjusts and gets himself a little more leverage so he can go a little faster, but not as deep.
Kat: The speed helps some, and him moving changes the angle slightly, so it's hitting Josh in a better place. Between that and the conversation seeming to hit a place where he doesn't need to talk as much, Josh is talking less and making noises more. Usually, the rimming would've kept Josh pliant and less coherent at least until they came, but today, he just didn't quite stay there.
Ells: The noises reassure RJ enough that he's kind of back into the less-talk, more-action mindset. He's always really concerned about Josh but he honestly feels like he's further gone than Josh at the moment. He's just kind of driving in at this point, still trying to at least aim a bit, but mostly just burying himself in Josh over and over, knowing he can keep it up as long as he can last because neither of them are going anywhere
Kat: That definitely puts Josh back into a fuzzier headspace and gets him closer. That's what he's really wanted all night, was to have RJ fuck the hell out of him, and he's finally getting that. "'S good."
Ells:RJ makes a vague noise of agreement. It's a lot easier for him to really just lose it when he's behind Josh like this instead of facing each other. They've been together long enough that it's not about impressing Josh, really, unless that's just his mood that day, and he's taking advantage of that right now and just taking what he wants while he can get it.
Kat: Josh likes seeing RJ's face, because he's a sap, but there's something about this way (that is also true of rimming from behind) that gets him into the swing of it more easily, because he can't see RJ's body and follow the movement and he can't predict what's going to happen next
Ells: Eventually RJ is getting far gone enough that he's basically trying to manhandle Josh, pulling him back onto his cock, aware that he's either going to have to cool it or deal with coming first even after Josh had been through all of that rimming, but it's not a right-this-second decision he needs to make so he's just going for it, breathing gone all sharp and body on edge.
Kat: The manhandling definitely gets Josh there with RJ, right to the edge
Ells: RJ knows he's taking things right down to the wire, and he moans, but it's laced with frustration, like he's not willing or ready for it to be time but he knows it is, and he's immediately rearranging his plans in his head. "Gonna come soon," he warns roughly, still pounding into Josh, "but if you're not there I'll suck you the rest of the way."
Kat: "I'm there," Josh says without hesitation.
Ells: RJ's kind of relieved, mostly just because he didn't want to feel like the world's least sexually competent man, but he says, "Damn," anyway, like he's disappointed. His hips are starting to not cooperate with what he wants and his fingers dig in a little more where he's holding onto Josh and pulling him back. He moans again, less frustrated and more wrecked.
Kat: Josh comes, and he squeezes as much as he can to try and drag RJ along with him. His arms buckle under his weight, because they've been doing a lot, and he just wants to sprawl out and not have to do anything until his limbs quit feeling like jelly. RJ's still inside him, though, so he has to be a bit patient
Ells: RJ's definitely done for, squeezing his eyes shut and coming, and Josh tightening up around him has him gasping and twitching a little even when he's done thrusting. He pulls out right off because otherwise he's just gonna end up squashing Josh into the floor.
Kat: When RJ pulls out, Josh finally properly sinks into the floor, moving onto his back so he doesn't get come all over everything
Ells: RJ pulls the condom off and barely even bothers tying it before he tosses it, not aiming at anything in particular, he can worry about it later (and god please let him remember, he doesn't wanna be that guy leaving used condoms on the floor for the cleaning staff to find, that's one step too far). He lays down beside Josh on the floor, front first, crossing his arms to rest his head on. "We gotta stop going so long in between."
Kat: "We do," Josh agrees, "Although that was fucking awesome, I am pretty sure I can't feel my arms."
Ells: RJ makes this taken aback face, like he'd considered the legs but not the arms, somehow, and levers himself back up on his elbows and takes hold of Josh's arm that's closest to him with both hands, rubbing and kneading at it. "You should've said something sooner."
Kat: "Sorry?" Josh says, and he relaxes into RJ. His arm still feels like jello, but RJ rubbing it does feel nice. "Didn't think of it."
Ells: "I didn't want you to be /hurt/." He kind of registers how he's sounding at the minute and backpedals, cracking a smirk. "Wouldn't want to have to stick you on the injured list for ultimate frisbee."
Kat: "You have no idea how glad I am we have the next week off," Josh says, because, believe it or not, he was actually thinking ahead when he agreed to wall sex.
Ells: RJ laughs and realizes he can't really get at Josh's other arm properly unless he moves or properly sits up, so he gives up on the one he's been working on, still up on his elbows looking at Josh. "For the record, if you ever mention Julia Roberts while we're fucking again, I'm just going to /stop/."
Kat: "Julia Roberts is a hard limit. Noted," Josh says, pretending to write it down with the arm RJ was working on.
Ells: "She's got a weird-" He gestures at his face and particularly around his mouth. "Just. No." He shakes his head, clearing the image of her from his head. "I totally would've paid for that, though. You could be onto something."
Kat: Josh laughs, "I wouldn't make you pay, even if I did charge. It'd be terrible business, but holy fuck."
Ells: "Stops being a john when you stop making him pay." I'm starting to wonder if RJ maybe knew a few people who did turn tricks. "I always liked sluts better than whores, anyway."
Kat: I think this whole conversation is making Josh a bit uncomfortable, but it seems like it's coming to an end, so he's not going to say anything. "Pretty sure that I would qualify as a slut. It's weird to think of it that way, though."
Ells: "You're only a slut if you want to be one, anyway." He's undecided on whether he still counts as a slut. He still has more sex than a lot of people do, and he still unashamedly loves it, but it's only with the one guy and he's lost a lot of the things that made him think of himself that way. "Either way, we don't get to do this enough, and it's making me wish I /could/ just keep you on payroll. I m...I don't get enough time with you."
Kat: "We don't," Josh agrees sadly, "we don't get to spend nearly enough time with each other, and we should do something about that."
Ells: RJ shrugs. "There's not really anything we can cut out to make time, yeah? Baseball, school, the wonder twins. Non-negotiables."
Kat: Josh thinks about it, "Maybe sometimes I can crash here to work on homework. It's much less crowded than the library, and the study breaks are much, much better."